Rich Hoffner Friday, February 29, 2008 at 23:21:53     68.80.47.48
Helen F, thanks. I have it downloaded. Machine cancel on that one, but I found one with a dubious Pascagoula four bar hand cancel.
Don Tjossem Friday, February 29, 2008 at 20:41:36     207.118.36.69
This Day in Naval History - March 01

From the Navy News Service

1942 - Patrol Wing (VP) 82 aircraft sinks German submarine, U-656. It is the Navy's first submarine kill of World War II.

1954 - The first of six detonations takes place during Operation Castle nuclear test.

1980 - USS Vulcan (AR 5) completes first six-month deployment with women as part of its crew.



lbbrennan Friday, February 29, 2008 at 20:28:23     216.9.250.61
Hi frank.

Sbm later?


Stewart B. Milstein Friday, February 29, 2008 at 20:16:12     12.72.118.200
bbl = it is dinner time here in AZ
Stewart B. Milstein Friday, February 29, 2008 at 20:13:21     12.72.118.200
Hi Ed.
lbbrennan Friday, February 29, 2008 at 19:38:23     216.9.250.106
From Nimitz Carrier Strike Group 11 Public Affairs

BUSAN, Republic of Korea (NNS) -- USS Nimitz (CVN 68), USS Princeton (CG 59) and USS John Paul Jones (DDG 53) arrived in Busan, Feb. 28, for a scheduled port visit in conjunction with exercise Key Resolve/Foal Eagle 2008 (KR/FE 08).
Additionally, the guided-missile destroyer USS Chaffee (DDG 90) arrived in Donghae and the guided-missile destroyer USS Higgins (DDG 76) pulled into Pohang Feb. 28. During these port visits, Sailors will participate in friendship building activities, meet local citizens, experience local customs and traditions, and enjoy the many recreational activities offered in Busan, Donghae and Pohang, Republic of Korea (ROK).
The deployment of the nuclear-powered aircraft carrier Nimitz to backfill USS Kitty Hawk (CV 63) while the Kitty Hawk undergoes maintenance exemplifies U.S. commitment to peace and stability in the Pacific Region.
While in the U.S. 7th Fleet area of responsibility, the Nimitz Strike Group will participate in KR/FE 08, which was formerly known as the Reception, Staging, Onward Movement and Integration Exercise or RSOI. Key Resolve reflects the transition to a Republic of Korea-led exercise program.
The joint and combined field training exercise referred to as Foal Eagle will be linked with Key Resolve, as it has been linked with RSOI for the past several years. KR/FE 08, like all other Combined Forces Command exercises is designed to improve the command's ability to defend ROK.
The Nimitz CSG is commanded by Rear Adm. Terry Blake.
"Our goal is to maintain and strengthen our alliances and friendships in the region," said Blake.
The Nimitz CSG is comprised of Commander, Carrier Strike Group 11, the nuclear-powered aircraft carrier Nimitz; its embarked air wing, Carrier Air Wing (CVW) 11; embarked Destroyer Squadron 23; the guided-missile cruiser USS Princeton (CG 59); the guided-missile destroyers USS John Paul Jones (DDG 53), USS Higgins (DDG 76), and USS Chafee (DDG 90); Helicopter Anti-submarine Squadron Light (HSL) 49 "Scorpions," HSL 37 "Easy Riders"; and Explosive Ordnance Disposal Mobile Unit 11.
CVW-11's squadrons include the "Tophatters" of Strike Fighter Squadron (VFA) 14, the "Black Aces" of VFA-41, the "Sunliners" of VFA-81, the "Wallbangers" of Airborne Early Warning Squadron 117, the "Red Devils" of Marine Corps Strike Fighter Squadron 232, the "Black Ravens" of Electronic Warfare Squadron 135, the "Providers" of Carrier Logistics Support Squadron 30 and the "Indians" of Helicopter Anti-Submarine Squadron 6.
Operating in the Western Pacific and Indian Oceans, the 7th Fleet is the largest of the forward-deployed U.S. fleets, with approximately 50 ships, 120 aircraft and 20,000 Sailors and Marines assigned at any given time.
Mike Brock Friday, February 29, 2008 at 17:51:48     67.168.232.131
Listed below is the address for the March 10, 2008 USS SAVANNAH CL-42 70th Anniversary cancellation. Since the rubber stamp cancellation has yet to be made, please wait until at least March 10 to send for covers. Thanks.


USS SAVANNAH CL-42
70th Anniversary Station
USPS / Postmaster
2 N Fahm St.
Savannah, GA 31401-9998

Dave Kent Friday, February 29, 2008 at 16:50:5     68.9.251.239
Here's a Leap Year tribute to Jim Russell, who spent 30 years of his life working on the Postmark Catalog (and popularizing Gow Ng cachets). Jim loved Feb. 29 postmarks and every four years would send out flocks of covers to get that eusive date on covers.
SteveShay Friday, February 29, 2008 at 16:41:10     65.213.44.9
New Member of the Month and Cover of the Month posted today.
lbbrennan Friday, February 29, 2008 at 16:12:48     38.117.188.10
CC Jake, That should be a great show. Shame she wasn't preserved. Larry
CCJake Friday, February 29, 2008 at 15:46:48     65.96.57.153
Hi Dave & Don
CCJake Friday, February 29, 2008 at 15:46:29     65.96.57.153
NOIP

There is a special on the History Channel at 10:00pm tonite on the WWII carrier Enterprise, if anyone is interested


lYDING Friday, February 29, 2008 at 13:33:9     69.140.90.224
Mike & Rich thanks for the info on N boats
Greg Ciesielski Friday, February 29, 2008 at 12:56:32     65.184.47.158
A "Convention Info" link has been added to the menu bar today for everybody's convienence.
Greg Ciesielski Friday, February 29, 2008 at 10:29:45     65.184.47.158
HaPpY LeAp YeAr DaY!
HFowler Friday, February 29, 2008 at 9:26:45     67.174.90.205
Owen Murray has a scan of Beck 872 on his site. http://beck.ormurray.com/index.html http://beck.ormurray.com/mwb0872-ns.jpg
john young Friday, February 29, 2008 at 6:4:17     67.83.193.69
Stewart: a good circuit at New Jersey Chapter meeting-keep up the great work- even found some
new (pre-WWII) event covers for carriers & an cruiser.
BMCM Jones 3933 Friday, February 29, 2008 at 0:19:8     72.188.35.116
Colton company reports

KITTY HAWK TO INDIA? Reliable sources report that DoD is considering transferring the USS "Kitty Hawk" (CV 63 - built by New York Ship in 1961 and still active), to India, as an incentive to them to buy a whole lot of US-built fighters. Good idea, although it would be nice if, one day, DoD would consider giving some country a bunch of old fighters as an incentive to them to buy some US-built ships. As one humorist points out, however, an advantage of this deal is that tech support would only require a local call. February 26, 2008.


lbbrennan Thursday, February 28, 2008 at 23:24:30     216.9.250.106
Stewart. Made the early train. Didn't expect to go home üntil noon.

I think Cole was part of the Nassau ESG. I posted deployment recently.

18 hour day today a normal but bad day tomorrow and then two 12 hour days over the weekend.

Larry


Stewart B. Milstein Thursday, February 28, 2008 at 22:47:8     12.72.119.36
be back tomorrow AM
Stewart B. Milstein Thursday, February 28, 2008 at 22:41:10     12.72.119.36
When did the COLE sail? When is she expected to arrive?
Stewart B. Milstein Thursday, February 28, 2008 at 22:40:34     12.72.119.36
LB - please tell me you are NOT at work - that you are on the train.
lbbrennan Thursday, February 28, 2008 at 22:37:33     38.117.188.10
US warship sails towards Lebanon
The United States has ordered a warship to take up position off the coast of Lebanon in a show of support for the country's embattled government.
The deployment of the USS Cole is being seen as a warning to Syria which - along with Iran - backs the opposition.

The Western-backed government and the opposition have repeatedly failed to agree a deal to end political impasse.

A US official quoted by news agencies said the move was "a show of support for regional stability".

"We are very concerned about the situation in Lebanon. It has dragged on very long," the unnamed senior US official told Reuters news agency.


A US defence official quoted by Reuters said the USS Cole, a guided-missile destroyer, had left Malta on Tuesday and was heading toward Lebanon.

He stressed that once in position, it would not be within visible range of Lebanon but "well over the horizon".

The news agency said the official had indicated that the destroyer could be replaced by the USS Nassau, an amphibious assault ship, which is currently heading towards the Mediterranean.

The USS Cole was attacked in the port of Aden, Yemen, in October 2000 by water-borne al-Qaeda suicide bombers. Seventeen US sailors were killed and the ship was badly damaged.

Postponed 15 times

Lebanon has not had a president since 24 November, when pro-Syrian Emile Lahoud left office. Parliament has repeatedly failed to elect a successor amid an ongoing row over candidates.

The election was postponed once again this week, and is now due to take place on 11 March. It was the 15th such delay.

There are fears that the political deadlock could lead to escalating sectarian violence.

Recent clashes between supporters of rival factions have further raised tensions and prompted several countries to advise their citizens against travelling to Lebanon.

Saudi Foreign Minister Prince Saud al-Faisal warned earlier this month that the country was "on the verge of civil war".

The setting up of an international tribunal to try the assassins of former Prime Minister Rafiq Hariri is another source of tension.

Syria is widely blamed for the February 2005 car bomb attack that killed Hariri, but Damascus has denied any involvement.

Two months after the assassination, amid US-led international pressure, Syria withdrew its troops from Lebanon, ending a 29-year occupation.


Stewart B. Milstein Thursday, February 28, 2008 at 22:34:28     12.72.119.36
LB - glad you found something at the Chapter meeting.
Stewart B. Milstein Thursday, February 28, 2008 at 22:32:26     12.72.119.36
Good Evening gentlemen.
Dave Kent Thursday, February 28, 2008 at 22:31:12     68.9.251.239
I can be in and out of here in a flash..
Mike Kaup Thursday, February 28, 2008 at 22:25:14     98.203.206.115
John L, an additional site for images of N boats and other pre 1940 subs is "Through The Looking Glass".
lbbrennan Thursday, February 28, 2008 at 21:1:49     38.117.188.10
Dave, Stealth or flash visit? Larry
lbbrennan Thursday, February 28, 2008 at 21:1:10     38.117.188.10
Stewart, Thanks for the circuit. Found some interesting old things. It was an important part and I think most folks found something.

Back to work.

Larry


Stewart B. Milstein Thursday, February 28, 2008 at 20:46:10     12.72.119.27
-Hi Phil. How did the circuit go at the meeting?
Mike Brock Thursday, February 28, 2008 at 18:27:20     67.168.232.131
Thanks Rich for answering all our questions.
Rich Hoffner Thursday, February 28, 2008 at 17:21:14     68.80.47.48
OK mailing address for NYC; Postmaster, Special Events Branch, USPS, 421 8th Ave., Rm. 2029B, NYC, 10199-9998
CCJake Thursday, February 28, 2008 at 15:51:24     65.96.57.153
Hi Mike
Rich Hoffner Thursday, February 28, 2008 at 13:41:48     68.80.47.48
I have not had time to check on mailing address for these two postmarks. I have jpegs if you want to see them, just email me. Westwego would go to Postmaster, for NYC I suspect, use whatever address you have used in the past for Fleet Week cancels. I'm adding this because someone always asks.
Rich Hoffner Thursday, February 28, 2008 at 13:39:35     68.80.47.48
Can't seem to get away from this site or my computer today. LATE BREAKING NEWS, as "they" say....

USPS has approved pictorial postmarks for Christening of USS NEW YORK LPD-21 at both Westwego LA and at New York City. Approval came in today! These will appear in a later Postal Bulletin with an extention. If you already mailed your covers to Westwego, you may get back their circular date stamp, as they might not even know the approval went through yet.


Rich Hoffner Thursday, February 28, 2008 at 13:3:36     68.80.47.48
I am looking for a serviced Beck # 872 DD-969 Keel Laying. It ties in with a fraudulent cancel article I am preparing. I would appreciate a jpeg if someone has one.
Stewart B. Milstein Thursday, February 28, 2008 at 12:21:16     12.72.118.191
bbl

Rich Hoffner Thursday, February 28, 2008 at 12:20:43     68.80.47.48
Strw: I'll email you about a source for more circuits.
Rich Hoffner Thursday, February 28, 2008 at 12:19:27     68.80.47.48
Mike B - yes teh cancel will have the same date all year. So, probably best to use the Forever stamp, which looks like now will sell for 42c the day the rates go up. Otherwise a 42c stamp on the cover wll look suspicious years from now. I'm told though, that a similar postmark will be issued on 2-22-09 also. So we can stand-by for another nail biter, to see what ships they list a eyar fron now and if that cancel will be available for 365 days also.
Stewart B. Milstein Thursday, February 28, 2008 at 12:18:39     12.72.118.191
Right now I have NO circuit material on hand to send out.
Stewart B. Milstein Thursday, February 28, 2008 at 12:17:56     12.72.118.191
Rich - you are welcome. With the miilons of covers you have have you thought about creating a circuit and sending the material to me so that I can get it out to the members?
Stewart B. Milstein Thursday, February 28, 2008 at 12:15:49     12.72.118.191
Rich - the rule of thumb in Ny when it cme to scrapping trolley cars, was that they would either re-paint the cars and/or re-surface the street and re-lay the rasils back in place. Even today there are steets in Brooklyn where the trolley tracks are starting to show through the surface of the asphalt.
Rich Hoffner Thursday, February 28, 2008 at 12:14:16     68.80.47.48
Hay Stew... thanks for the last circuit.
Rich Hoffner Thursday, February 28, 2008 at 12:13:21     68.80.47.48
John L you can find the N calss boats at http://pigboats.com/subs/n-boats.html
Stewart B. Milstein Thursday, February 28, 2008 at 12:12:35     12.72.118.191
John L. try the Navy's website for sub photos.
Stewart B. Milstein Thursday, February 28, 2008 at 12:11:35     12.72.118.191
Hi Rich.
Rich Hoffner Thursday, February 28, 2008 at 12:7:57     68.80.47.48
John L. Yes, this is the same information we had access to a week ago before the PB was issued. Just remember the updated information I clipped and pasted below somewhere, ONLY ships with a post office will get the cancels and they have not been shipped yet to any ships. Also, there are at least a dozen or more decommissioned ships on the PB list and newer commissioned ships are not on the list. Efforts are being made to have the list more accurate and the missing ships added, but this is in the preliminary statges. If you send covers now, they might return without the requested postmarks. Myself, I am going to wait until I know the actual cancellation device was actually shipped to the ships.
Mike Brock Thursday, February 28, 2008 at 11:56:8     67.168.232.131
Hi Rich...I take it the GWF US Navy Ship cancels will have just the one date of 2-22-08?
Dan Goodwin Thursday, February 28, 2008 at 11:24:39     74.69.249.233
I'll bet most of the ships don't have the hand cancels yet. There are still subs on the list. Boy is this going to be a logistical nightmare for USCS and USN and USPS.
Lyding Thursday, February 28, 2008 at 10:19:22     69.140.90.224
Does anyone have a photo of a US N-Class submarine. These were SS-54 through SS-59.

Lyding Thursday, February 28, 2008 at 9:11:26     69.140.90.224
This morning's POSTAL BULLETIN has the GREAT WHITE FLEET PO STATION Cancel Notes that it has been extended for 365 days and in addition to the Brentwood DC post office it lists 163 FPO addresses. Well if I get just one cover from each ship that is $0.82 x 163 = $133.66 plus the envelopes not to even consider the inj jet replacements.
Greg Ciesielski Thursday, February 28, 2008 at 8:28:36     65.184.47.158
Morning Larry! Having a good day so far?
Glenn Smith Thursday, February 28, 2008 at 6:41:46     138.210.189.62
americanairline: In this chat room, we would ask that you please use your name. Thank you.
Rich Hoffner Thursday, February 28, 2008 at 1:26:56     68.80.47.48
I'm wondering if there was a "taker" for the USS DOLPHIN SS-555? If not, she would be sunk according to the article below. What a waste, after $20mil spent on her prior to her decommissioning.
Rich Hoffner Thursday, February 28, 2008 at 0:48:25     68.80.47.48
From Navy Times article:
Navy sink list includes Forrestal, destroyers

By Zachary M. Peterson - Staff writer
Posted : Tuesday Feb 26, 2008 14:30:56 EST

The Navy plans to sink 15 decommissioned ships and scrap an additional 24 in the next five years, according to the latest shipbuilding plan.
In fiscal 2009, the Navy will sink the Yellowstone-class destroyer Acadia, the Spruance-class destroyer Conolly and the acoustic research ship Hayes. The Hayes is still active and will be decommissioned sometime this year, according to the Navy. The service requested $5.4 million to sink the three ships in the fiscal 2009 budget presented to Congress in early February. Two ships in the current plan are slated to sink and become artificial reefs, the plan notes: the Spruance-class destroyer Arthur W. Radford, which rests in Philadelphia, and the auxiliary aircraft landing training ship and former carrier Forrestal, currently berthed in Newport, R.I. Specific sink dates have not been set for these two ships because plans must be coordinated with Congress and other government agencies, the plan states. The Radford was named after the first Navy admiral to hold the position of chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and was decommissioned in March 2003 after about 26 years in service. The Forrestal spent 38 years in service. The ship was the first of its class of aircraft carriers, and was known unofficially as the “Forrest fire” due to the number of fires onboard. Innovations on the Forrestal-class carriers included an angled flight deck and a steam catapult. The ship was named after former Navy secretary James Forrestal, who was also the first defense secretary. The majority of the ships the Navy plans to sink — 11 vessels of the 15 — are auxiliary ships. These ships will be replaced by T-AKE dry cargo and ammunition ships. The Lewis and Clark-class T-AKE ships replace three auxiliary ships: the Kilauea-class ammunition ships, the Mars-class combat stores ships and — when operating with a Henry J. Kaiser-class oiler — the Supply-class fast combat support ships. The Navy plans to buy 12 T-AKE ships by fiscal 2012. Right now, there are three T-AKEs in service with a fourth, the Richard E. Byrd set to enter service this year. The Navy plans to scrap 24 ships in the next five years, but specific dates are not provided in the fiscal 2009 30-year ship plan. Nearly half of the ships — 10 hulls — are submarines, nine of which are nuclear powered; the Navy does not sink nuclear ships due to environmental concerns.
“For nuclear ships, dismantling through a special recycling process is the only viable option,” the plan states. “Disposal of conventionally powered ships by sinking will usually be conducted as part of an approved training exercise or to support weapons testing requirements.” according to the Navy plan.
The Navy’s fleet of inactive ships has been reduced by more than two-thirds in the last decade, the plan notes. An inventory of 195 ships in 1997 is now down to 62 ships, the document says. “Over the past seven years, the Navy’s average cost to dismantle conventionally powered Navy inactive ships in the U.S. is $300 per ton,” said Kathleen Roberts, a Naval Systems Command spokeswoman. Further, it costs the Navy $14 million per year to maintain its current inactive ship inventory, Roberts said. The Navy is asking Congress for $110 million total in fiscal 2009 to pay for ship deactivations and disposal, according to the budget request. Plans for how and when the Navy moves forward with its inactive fleet are made at the service’s annual ship disposition review conference. The next conference is slated for November or December this year, said Lt. Clay Doss, a Navy spokesman.


CCJake Thursday, February 28, 2008 at 0:48:14     65.96.57.153
HI MIke & Rich
CCJake Thursday, February 28, 2008 at 0:47:46     65.96.57.153
Master Chief Jones
CONGRATULATION to your daughter, must make you proud to see her Go Navy !!

Speaking Navy, watch a preview airing tonite on PBS of their up coming special on Carriers, filmed aboard the Nimitz. Looks like its going to be a great show, might I suggest all you with an interest in the Navy watch it when it airs in your area. Check your PBS listings for April.


BMCM Jones 3933 Thursday, February 28, 2008 at 0:14:59     72.188.35.116
The Navy will christen the newest San Antonio class amphibious transport dock ship New York (LPD 21) at 10 a.m. CST on Saturday, March 1, 2008, during a ceremony at Northrop Grumman Shipbuilding facilities in New Orleans, La.

The ship is named New York in honor of the state, the city and the victims of Sept. 11, 2001. A unique characteristic of the ship is the use of 7.5 tons of steel salvaged from the World Trade Center wreckage that was incorporated into the construction process. The steel was melted and formed to make the bow stem of the ship. Use of this steel symbolizes the spirit and resiliency of the people of New York. The official motto of New York is: “Never Forget.”


BMCM Jones 3933 Thursday, February 28, 2008 at 0:6:38     72.188.35.116
My daughter has been accepted for a 3-month summer internship with Naval Criminal Investigative Service (NCIS) at Mayport NAVSTA.

Should be a great learning experience. She graduates from University of FLorida in Dec---I hope.


BMCM Jones 3933 Thursday, February 28, 2008 at 0:2:13     72.188.35.116
Mike Kaup
BLUEBACK was one of three in the BARBEL-class of post-war diesels
Mike Kaup Wednesday, February 27, 2008 at 23:45:6     98.203.206.115
I toured the USS BLUEBACK in Seattle a few years before she was decommissioned. Nice boat. DANFS doesn't give her or the BLUFISH's class. Were they SKATE class?
Greg Ciesielski Wednesday, February 27, 2008 at 21:35:5     65.184.47.158
In regards to the Karcher covers, I have a couple in my collections but I know they are frauds so I feed them to my printer. Now, whoever gets them after me will have no doubt as to their authenticity. I kept them as a reminder.
BMCM Jones 3933 Wednesday, February 27, 2008 at 21:29:37     72.188.35.116
Video clip of USS HAWAII in panama Canal

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7614213749009433989&q=submarine%2C+uss


Don Tjossem Wednesday, February 27, 2008 at 20:29:46     207.118.36.69
Dave,
When will you start "The Dave Kent Story?"
Don Tjossem Wednesday, February 27, 2008 at 20:29:4     207.118.36.69
This Day in Naval History - Feb. 28

From the Navy News Service

1844 - The Peacemaker, an experimental 14-inch gun, explodes aboard USS Princeton.

1893 - USS Indiana (BB 1), the first true battleship in the U.S. Navy, is launched.

1959 - USS Strong (DD 758) rescues 13 Arab fishermen from Bahrain when their fishing boats flounder in a storm.

1980 - The blue crew of USS Francis Scott Key (SSBN 657) launches four Trident I (C-4) missiles in the first C-4 operational test.



Stewart B. Milstein Wednesday, February 27, 2008 at 19:30:11     12.72.118.234
bbl
Stewart B. Milstein Wednesday, February 27, 2008 at 19:26:47     12.72.118.234
Hi Ken.
Dave Kent Wednesday, February 27, 2008 at 18:26:1     68.9.251.239
I;ve been tasked to write "The Fred Karcher Story," which will appear in the LOG sometime this summer. It's a melodrama you won't believe....
Stewart B. Milstein Wednesday, February 27, 2008 at 17:35:47     12.72.119.250
As far as I am concerned all Karcher covers are suspect. However as USCS Sales Circuit Manager I have members who tell me that they are looking for Karcher covers. This is an exciting hobby in that you cam collect what you want to collect.
Stewart B. Milstein Wednesday, February 27, 2008 at 17:33:21     12.72.119.250
USCS member Charles Salaki of Metuchen NJ died on Feb 25th. I shall miss him.
lbbrennan Wednesday, February 27, 2008 at 17:17:58     38.117.188.10
CC Jake, Stuff happens and when we get large lots, a great way to expand our collections at a blended cost, we take the good with the bad. I generally have a problem with all Karcher covers. Others are more narrow in their views. I think everything is suspect and the cachets gaudy. Certainly, the T2s are subject to question since he was known to make copies of rubber stamp cancels. His cachets also were made from rubber stamp material but printed. It is ok if the buyers are warned. I'm a bit troubled to see the USCS sell his stuff in the LOG and confused when I see USCS members advertise his covers for sale. In the most recent incident, a smart USCS member noted the questionable origin as Greg C observed last evening. I admit that I missed the warning but cannot criticize someone who puts the public on notice.

In any event, there will be a series of articles on fraudulent postmarks, etc. and FLK will have his due. He's not alone.
Larry


CCJake Wednesday, February 27, 2008 at 16:40:21     65.96.57.153
Rich H.

Think your right about Karcher Covers being mixed in with a lot of large cover lots on E-Bay.
Eample was several years back I purchased a large lot of Naval Covers on e-Bay from a well known cover seller, in the lot there were about 25 Karcher covers, no mwention of them in the auction description, just stated it was a mixed lot and named some of the ships, the scans that were shown were some of the better quality covers. Felt like I got my moneies worth out of the lot, even counting the Karcher junk, so never complained to the seller. After all he did state it was a mixed lot, with some better covers. Not sure today if I would have kept that lot, but we all learn in this hobby as time goes by.


tkaczkowski Wednesday, February 27, 2008 at 15:15:51     64.12.116.137
Received the 65th Anniversary of Commissioning - USS Iowa BB 61 today from Brooklyn and they were perfect.
Greg Ciesielski Wednesday, February 27, 2008 at 9:35:15     65.184.47.158
It is Wednesday at 0936, where is everybody?
Rich Hoffner Tuesday, February 26, 2008 at 21:17:20     68.80.47.48
Greg C, just remember what the acronym M.A.R.I.N.E.S. stands for.......
Rich Hoffner Tuesday, February 26, 2008 at 21:9:47     68.80.47.48
Rec'd OK from Battleship New Jersey to host the U S Postal Service with the pictorial I submitted for the Re-Commissioning of the USS New Jersey BB-62 for RVN duty. Since it was a Sunday, the South Jersey District of the USPS wanted to have a temporaty station, since the Camden NJ post office was closed. Details are being worked out, but the cancel will be available at BB-62 on April 6 and at the Main Post Office in Camden NJ for thirty days after that. An identical postmark will be available at the Philadelphia "B. Free Franklin" Sta on the same date in person. After that requests go to the 30th Street Station in Philly.
Rich Hoffner Tuesday, February 26, 2008 at 21:0:34     68.80.47.48
I have sold Karcher covers on eBay. Usually event covers. I have just described them as what the cachet says and mention that they are produced by Karcher. I can't help but to notice that almost any lot of naval covers you see advertised, contains some Karcher kovers.
lbbrennan Tuesday, February 26, 2008 at 20:39:20     216.9.250.120
Greg c. Thanks. That is important. I missed it. Need new glasses. Larry
Greg Ciesielski Tuesday, February 26, 2008 at 20:19:8     65.184.47.158
Hey Big Dewey, how ya doin'?
Greg Ciesielski Tuesday, February 26, 2008 at 20:18:33     65.184.47.158
Larry B. - At least the seller with the Karchers mentions they are frauds in his description. That has to help his case. I'm no lawyer but I did sleep on a water bed last night.
Don Tjossem Tuesday, February 26, 2008 at 19:33:42     207.118.36.69
This Day in Naval History - Feb. 27

From the Navy News Service

1861 - Congress approves the construction of seven steam sloops.

1928 - A packtrain escorted by 35 Marines is ambushed by 600 Sandinastas near Bromaderos, Nicaragua. The Marines fight off the repeated attacks and are relieved the next day.

1942 - During the Battle of the Java Sea, an allied naval force attacks a Japanese invasion convoy.


lbbrennan Tuesday, February 26, 2008 at 18:25:43     38.117.188.10
Interesting stuff on ebay -- hand done mermaids at $3.00. Well known USCS cover seller has Karcher stuff for sale -- disappointing. That is why the series on frauds is being published in the LOG.
Stewart B. Milstein Tuesday, February 26, 2008 at 12:41:18     12.72.119.45
bbl
Dave Kent Tuesday, February 26, 2008 at 12:40:57     68.9.251.239
Hi, Stewart. Nathan Hale Chapter meeting this Sunday. Looks like the member who promised the program won't deliver, so I'll have to think up something myself. How about "Confusion over Pictorial Cancels"?
Stewart B. Milstein Tuesday, February 26, 2008 at 12:38:12     12.72.119.45
Hi Dave.
Stewart B. Milstein Tuesday, February 26, 2008 at 12:37:42     12.72.119.45
Hi John - hope all goes well at the meeting this evening.
Stewart B. Milstein Tuesday, February 26, 2008 at 12:35:5     12.72.119.45
Hi Detlev.
Rich Hoffner Tuesday, February 26, 2008 at 12:1:7     68.80.47.48
Also as an update to the GWF posted list, the first two cancels at listed at Staten Island hit a glitch, and have been rescheduled into February and March. I have also had information that Staten Island post office has hit a snag, where they are asking a district manager if it is OK to issue the postmarks. Original dates were 1-6-08 and 1-13-08.
Rich Hoffner Tuesday, February 26, 2008 at 11:51:38     68.80.47.48
If you read the memo I posted below, it is good news for collectors. The previous information had a lot of holes in it. This memo is very clear that it is mandatory and mentions and Admiral!
Rich Hoffner Tuesday, February 26, 2008 at 11:49:14     68.80.47.48
Steve Shay, thanks for all the effort you have put into that area of the website.
Rich Hoffner Tuesday, February 26, 2008 at 11:48:21     68.80.47.48
Just reviewed teh GWF cancels illustrated on this site. Remember Tacoma WA illustration shows 6-1-08 in the postmark. It is a Sunday, so the postmark was resubmitted and it now reads 6-2-08. Fleet was in Tacoma from 6-1-1908 to 6-14-1908.
Rich Hoffner Tuesday, February 26, 2008 at 11:44:28     68.80.47.48
Decatur Chapter will be holding a chapter meeting this Sunday 1PM at 415 Moyer Rd (Franconia Twp) Souderton PA 18964. Moyer Rd is approx. 10 minutes from the PA TPK Lansdale Exit (NE Extention). All attendees will get those chapter covers issued since the last meeting. Discussion and review of all current GWF proposed postmarks, preview of proposed pictorial for the bext six months. Members are encouraged to bring recent additions to their collections to show off.
Thanks Larry B for the idea....
Rich Hoffner Tuesday, February 26, 2008 at 11:26:41     68.80.47.48
Roger, check the PB that comes out 2-28-08, but the information I just posted below was issued 2-26-08 to clarify any misunderstandings from the fleet.
Rich Hoffner Tuesday, February 26, 2008 at 11:24:38     68.80.47.48
This message went out from United States Fleet Forces Command to try to clarify the special GWF pictorial postmark annuoncement to the fleet. In the beginning the USPS and or the Pentagon sent a press release to the fleet indicating that the stamps were to be paid for by the ships and ordered from Baumgartner in DC (The list had many mistakes, decommissioned ships, ships missing and ships without a post office were listed). Baumgartner has had contracts for many years with the FPO's to supply cancels to ships and bases with post offices. This further clarifies another mystery, the availability of the cancel from submarines and the MCM's on the initial list. Only ships with a post office will get cancels. BUT most importantly, if you write for the cancel, be sure you remember that there is no time frame set to get these to the fleet post offices. The latest information is clipped and pasted below:

"All,
1. There is a little miscommunication going on. All surface ships (not submarines) with a Post Office, whether run by a Postal Clerk (PC) or a
Postal Petty Officer (PPO) will receive a stamp, FUNDED BY U.S. Fleet Forces Command (USFFC). Mr Reyes, this is not optional. The Fleet Supply Officer, RDML Brown, has made this a mandatory requirement so all ships will comply. If you mistakenly passed that information to the Fleet, please retract. This is not a Pentagon directive...they are coordinating this for USFFC via Ms Kweilen Kimmmelman(DEPUNSECNAV). As soon as Ms. Kimmelman provides cost information, USFFC will make arrangements for the procurement/shipment of the comm emorative stamp to all units. FPO's have been provided by East and West Coast Postal advisors and forwarded to DEPUNSECNAV.

2. This should not be a burden as this is not additional duty, rather it is a temporary replacement stamp in lieu of the current stamp.
Please await further guidance from U.S. Fleet Forces Command (USFFC). You can contact me (see below) or PCCM Card (xxx-xxx-xxxx if you have any questions.
V/R
CDR Fulford"


Greg Ciesielski Tuesday, February 26, 2008 at 11:17:28     65.184.47.158
Mornin' Rich!
Duane Wilson Tuesday, February 26, 2008 at 9:43:41     204.124.92.254
Norfolk Feb 1 USS New Jersey covers arrived yesterday. As always, Hervey did a perfect job.

Also receive Four Chaplains covers. Cancels were underinked but readable; a little disappointing.


SteveShay Tuesday, February 26, 2008 at 9:14:4     65.213.44.9
Roger, I've posted all the information I have. Presumably the same cancel would be used for all the ships, just changing the name at the bottom of the cancel. Rich Hoffner has been doing an excellent job of getting the scoop on these cancels, I know he'll share more information as he gets it.

To all: the information I'm posting on cancels comes from those of you that report it to me. I'm simply compiling and posting the information that is provided to me. So please share what you know about GWF cancels or the 100 Years of Global Partnership cancels and I'll post it too.


Roger Wentworth Tuesday, February 26, 2008 at 8:43:15     75.91.54.194
Steve Shay,
Good job on the GWF cancel list on the home page. One question though. Are the "100 Years of Global Partnership and Security" pictorials illustrated, the ones that the ships are going to have? and, do you have a more complete address for the pictorial at Washington, D.C.?
lbbrennan Tuesday, February 26, 2008 at 8:15:11     216.9.250.102
Quiet night. Great NJ chapter meeting last night. It would be good to read postings regarding other chapters' meetings in advance and a brief report of events.
Roger Wentworth Tuesday, February 26, 2008 at 8:1:40     75.91.54.194
Received covers back from Norfolk yesterday for GWF/USS VIRGINIA and USS NEW JERSEY. Hervey and his crew did their usual great job!


Dan Goodwin Monday, February 25, 2008 at 20:41:6     74.69.249.233
Steve, the Feb. 29 cancel at Norfolk doesn't look right.
CCJake Monday, February 25, 2008 at 20:22:24     65.96.57.153
Steve Shay
Many thanks on the Life membership info you sent me. Will give it some thought.
Steve Shay Monday, February 25, 2008 at 20:21:2     12.72.134.76
I've updated the 2008 Commemorative Cancel section on the home page. (See the link below the Member of the Month area.) This reflects the changes Rich and Phil have been communicating. You can also get there from this link:

http://www.uscs.org/comm_cancels_08.htm


CCJake Monday, February 25, 2008 at 20:14:32     65.96.57.153
Hi Stewart
BMCM Jones 3933 Monday, February 25, 2008 at 19:36:22     72.188.61.165
March Preview pages have been posted
Click on USC LOG-Society journal at left
Mike Meister Monday, February 25, 2008 at 19:17:21     205.188.116.137
Some mail still moves fast - I received a couple of covers today from VRC 30 that were postmarked at APO 96368 (Kadena AFB) on 2/21! Not great cancels but at least I could read them.
lbbrennan Monday, February 25, 2008 at 18:41:21     216.9.250.112
Pentagon Calls Satellite Hit a Success
By THOM SHANKERPublished: February 25, 2008

WASHINGTON - The Pentagon announced Monday that the mission to launch a Navy missile-interceptor at a dead spy satellite appears to have succeeded in destroying a tank filled with toxic rocket fuel.
In a statement, the Pentagon said that it had reached its conclusion based on studying remnants from the missile strike last Wednesday.
"Based on debris analysis, officials are confident the missile intercept and destruction of a non-functioning National Reconnaissance Office satellite achieved the objective of destroying the hydrazine tank and reducing, if not eliminating, the risk to people on Earth from the hazardous chemical," the Pentagon said in a statement released Monday morning.
The statement said a joint space operations headquarters based at Vandenberg Air Force Base, in California, was tracking fewer than 3,000 pieces of debris, "all smaller than a football." Most of the debris, the statement said, already re-entered the atmosphere or would within coming weeks.
There had been no reports of debris hitting Earth, the statement said, adding that "it is unlikely any will remain intact to impact the ground."


Greg Ciesielski Monday, February 25, 2008 at 14:20:40     65.184.47.158
John Y. - Steve Shay contributed the NJ cover but the address on it and the address on Rawlins' example matches too. I wonder if Boyer was a non-USCS member artist doing covers for Marx? Rawlins says he has a bunch of Boyer covers and he will get scans to me in the future sometime. Name is definetly Boyer, I checked under enlargement.
lbbrennan Monday, February 25, 2008 at 13:30:9     216.9.250.119
Davr a. Stealth visit?
lbbrennan Monday, February 25, 2008 at 13:29:6     216.9.250.37
Greg c. Ready to launch. We have more marines than coasties in the family but my mother's cousin was a USCGR ensign kia when USS menges was torpedoed off Algeria in 1944. Two uncles were usmc from 1945 to 65 and my grandfather a ww I marine. Larry
john young Monday, February 25, 2008 at 10:9:24     67.83.193.69
Greg C: Seen the USS New Jersey (1946) cover on museum site. Guess your talking about handdrawn
cachet depicting the battleship by Boyer- a great cover. Looks it was drawn by him in 1947,
as the number 47 below his name. One thing that
doesn't look right- the addressee's name (Marx) appears below the address.
The 1948 yearbook lists #2636 Russell K. Bower
Harrisburg, PA. Could artist be Bower, rather than Boyer. Rawlins has it as Boyer (B-72)doing a tin can. Neither Marx or Boyer listed on any USCS roster that I have
can to same person
Greg Ciesielski Monday, February 25, 2008 at 9:29:23     65.184.47.158
John Y. - Any help with Cachetmaker Boyer?
Greg Ciesielski Monday, February 25, 2008 at 9:28:3     65.184.47.158
Larry B - No issues going between the USMC and the USCG. Just a little friendly banter but I hope they are not late next time I need a ride across the pond.
Dan Goodwin Monday, February 25, 2008 at 9:2:15     74.69.249.233
Phil, thanks for all your hard work in getting the pictorial cancel situation squared away.
lbbrennan Monday, February 25, 2008 at 8:44:16     38.117.188.10
Good morning Phil. I will try to make the chapter meeting tonight. Larry
PHIL SCHREIBER Monday, February 25, 2008 at 8:40:38     4.251.120.247
GWF T-3 PICTORIAL CANCELS FOR USS KANSAS AND USS OHIO ISSUED BY THE STATEN ISLAND POST OFFICE FOR FEB 29 AND MARCH 3, 2008 WILL START GOING OUT NEXT WEEK. THESE WERE ORIGINALLY SCHEDULED TO BE DATED ON JANUARY 6 AND 13, 2008, BUT GLITCHES CAUSED DELAYS, WHICH HAVE NOW BEEN WORKED OUT.
Roger Wentworth Monday, February 25, 2008 at 8:19:12     75.117.12.11
Hi Guys,
Received covers back from Mount Morris, NY with the Admiral Joseph Strauss/DDG-16 pictorial cancels. Nicely struck.
lbbrennan Monday, February 25, 2008 at 7:38:59     216.9.250.44
Steve s two good meals followed by Wendy's dollar specials shared with the dog
A little USCG usmc issue today?

Yesterday was a good day to outline new articles. Trying to keep them shorter. Should finish the older ones first. Finishing an article on the first legal beers since 1916. On board nimitz on 100th consecutive day underway April 1980


john young Monday, February 25, 2008 at 7:32:22     67.83.193.69
Once again, we heard from the former sea-going bellhop in eastern North Carolina. Always talking
about our shallow-water sailors. Did you ever go out Jones Inlet on a 38-foot picket boat? Did you
ever chase a Russian trawler off Long Island in a 83-foot patrol boat.
Coasties rule, marines drool!
Mike Kaup Monday, February 25, 2008 at 0:35:44     98.203.206.115
Greg, I suppose you are right. My Father being a WWII subvet took a dim view of my fear of water when I was young. One day while sitting on the dock he said "today you are going to learn to swim". He then picked me up and tossed me as far out into the lake as he could. He was right! I started swimming immediately.
Greg Ciesielski Monday, February 25, 2008 at 0:18:45     65.184.47.158
Saw a commercial for a show coming on next friday called "Enterprise 360". Using crew testimonies and computer animations, the USS Enterprise is transported back to her fighting days in World War II. It's on the History Channel I believe.
Greg Ciesielski Monday, February 25, 2008 at 0:16:46     65.184.47.158
Mike K - It's deep water if it is deeper than six feet. Just ask Rich Hoffner or John Young.
Mike Kaup Sunday, February 24, 2008 at 22:52:35     98.203.206.115
Just watched a video on diving the wreck of the USS TARPON. DANFS states it foundered in deep water of Cape Hatteras while in tow. It doesn't seem all that deep to me if divers can access it easily and fish are swimming all around it!
Dan Goodwin Sunday, February 24, 2008 at 19:41:50     74.69.249.233
What a lazy slow day. No mail, no covers, no kidding.
Steve Shay Sunday, February 24, 2008 at 13:56:34     12.72.134.110
Crab cakes and ice cream, what a life Larry.
lbbrennan Sunday, February 24, 2008 at 13:45:20     70.111.144.242
I can't beleive that the Ayatollah cooked finallhy. Ok, it was defrosting and heating crab cakes from Newport but they were warm. A first in memory of man.
lbbrennan Sunday, February 24, 2008 at 13:44:27     70.111.144.242
John, Perhaps he was a Papal Nuncio? Larry

Too much work on covers and articles about chaplains.


john young Sunday, February 24, 2008 at 12:55:22     67.83.193.69
Ahoy Mates!
Looking for help. years ago I saw a Last Day covers from USS FLORIDA (BB 30) on ebay with a
printed cachet & name of its mail clerk. Looking
to find out what the first name of N.H. Pecore
who later became mail clerk aboard battleship PENNSYLVANIA (1931-32). Somewhere in my memory (getting old) comes to mind maybe Nuncio was his name. Any help, help out there? Its worth a beer
in Charlotte.
Dennis Brophy Sunday, February 24, 2008 at 10:39:17     64.136.27.226
Recieved GWF covers from Hervey Trimyer Friday and Saturday. Beautiful strikes as usual. I hope everybody realizes what a tremendous asset Hervey is to USCS.
Brof
tkaczkowski Sunday, February 24, 2008 at 9:49:36     205.188.116.137
Phil..thank you for the reply to my question on the GWF pictorials from Staten Island.
Glenn Smith Sunday, February 24, 2008 at 9:33:43     138.210.189.62
Ahoy, Greg!
lbbrennan Sunday, February 24, 2008 at 0:52:44     70.111.144.242
Dave, Not sure if all ejection seats still have head knockers to blast through the glass canopies. They are supposed to blow away, but... I have a friend who survived three ejections from tactical jets, tied for the record, and he lost an inch in height for each ejection.

It was an old German ice cream place -- the original owner is long gone but he spoke German with my grandmother and my father remembers that Mr. Egger had a shortwave radio and listed to broadcasts of speeches from Germany before the war. He was a character -- I remember from my childhood that he wasn't fond of kids or any other form of people -- but he made great ice cream. The tradition continues. The coffee ice cream was wonderful, even on a winter day. Larry

Working on a few articles. Does anyone have details about the Gallery brother who wasn't a flag officer, Chaplain John Ireland Gallery? I have a penalty envelope sent from him and it makes a nice short article.


Greg Ciesielski Sunday, February 24, 2008 at 0:40:46     65.184.47.158
Greg M. - Thank you for the GWF postmark compliment. Rich Hoffer started the thought process and I finalized the design.
Phil Schreiber Saturday, February 23, 2008 at 22:20:14     4.251.123.3
GWF STATEN ISLAND T-3 PICTORIAL CANCEL DATES OF ISSUE HAD TO BE CHANGED: USS OHIO FEB 29 AND USS KANSAS MARCH 3.
Gregory Mews Saturday, February 23, 2008 at 21:35:34     24.209.127.18
I also received GWF covers back from Hervey Trimyer at Norfolk. Great application to the covers.........and many thanks to whoever designed the cancel. Simple design...but that's all that's needed..it tells the whole story. Thanks again.
tkaczkowski Saturday, February 23, 2008 at 19:35:51     205.188.116.137
Received my GWF pictorials from USS New Jersey BB 16 and USS Virginia BB 13 from Norfolk (Hervey) today.. great as usual. Has anyone received the pictorials from Staten Island for the GWF? I sent for those also and haven't received anything back.
Greg Ciesielski Saturday, February 23, 2008 at 17:55:23     65.184.47.158
Hi Mike!
Greg Ciesielski Saturday, February 23, 2008 at 17:55:12     65.184.47.158
ESink - Thanks! I look forward to receiving it.
Greg Ciesielski Saturday, February 23, 2008 at 17:54:25     65.184.47.158
Dave K - Ice cream isn't just for summer any more...
Dave Kent Saturday, February 23, 2008 at 17:37:21     68.9.251.239
Make that "jet." Ice cream in Frbruary....?
Dave Kent Saturday, February 23, 2008 at 17:36:9     68.9.251.239
I've been through Navy ejector seat training. One scary aspect is that there is a strong steel beam on the back of the seat higher than your head. If the canopy doesn't blow off, it's supposed to smash through the glass. You are also trained to hold your elbows in close to your body so they won't get cut off by the sides of the canopy bracket. You are basically sitting on a mortar shell which will blast you out of the plane fast and high enough so you won't hit the tail. Makes you want to think twice before going in a ride in a high-performance military get.
lbbrennan Saturday, February 23, 2008 at 17:29:23     216.9.250.27
Dave stealth day. At an ice cream parlor on the way back to NJ. Larry
lbbrennan Saturday, February 23, 2008 at 17:27:2     216.9.250.27
Duane that's an old story since a6s are long gone. Great story, however. The bn was beaten up in the slipstream. I think the pilot got an air medal for that flight. It is a tough job any day.
Duane Wilson Saturday, February 23, 2008 at 14:33:39     76.193.48.58
Just watched a great segment on The History Channel's "Shockwave" about an A-6 crew on the USS Abraham Lincoln. The Bombardier-Navigator's ejection seat came loose in flight and sent him partially through the canopy. The pilot landed with the BN ¾ of the way out of the plane. The BN survived and was back on duty 6 months later.
esink Saturday, February 23, 2008 at 14:21:14     68.54.151.233
Greg Ciesielski: Found another "Lawrence"; but can't scan until next week when I get my PC back from getting upgraded.
lbbrennan Saturday, February 23, 2008 at 14:18:8     216.9.250.83
A gray cold day in NYC. No real snow but it is just above freezing. We had 7 + inches of snow yesterday and a topping of frozen rain and ice. It is down by half. Time to look at covers and work on an article. I've started something on USS Gregory apd 3 and her last CO, LCDR Harry f Bauer who sent a no 10 penalty envelope with his corner card and free mail over a stricken offical frank in may 42. He was kia 5 SEP 42 and a dms was named for him. NY district attorney bob morganthau was her XO.
Steve Shay Saturday, February 23, 2008 at 11:15:4     12.72.193.103
That's quite a list of ships in Richard's posting.
Steve Shay Saturday, February 23, 2008 at 11:10:13     12.72.193.103
A B-2 bomber crashed on Guam during take off. Both crewmen ejected. I believe that is the first B-2 that has been lost.
BMCM Jones 3933 Saturday, February 23, 2008 at 8:56:27     72.188.61.165
Fleet reduction list as reported in Navy Times

Sinking
These ships will be disposed of by sinking in the listed fiscal years.
* 2009: destroyer tender Acadia, destroyer Conolly, both no longer in service, and research ship Hayes.
* 2010: combat store ships Concord, San Jose, Spica and Niagara Falls.
* 2011: combat store ship Saturn and ammunition ship Kilauea.
* 2012: ammunition ships Flint, Shasta, Mount Baker and Kiska.
The decommissioned auxiliary aircraft landing training ship — and former carrier — Forrestal and destroyer Arthur W. Radford also are expected to be sunk, but no time frame has been determined.
Scrapping
These decommissioned ships are scheduled to be dismantled in the next five years: destroyer tender Puget Sound; command ship Coronado; submarine tenders Simon Lake, L.Y. Spear and McKee; cruisers Yorktown, Vincennes and Thomas S. Gates; aircraft carriers Independence and Constellation; amphibious transport dock Austin; helicopter amphibious assault ship New Orleans; dock landing ships Anchorage and Fort Fisher; submarine Trout; and nuclear submarines Drum, Omaha, Cincinnati, New York City, Groton, Birmingham, Phoenix and Baltimore. The fast-attack submarine Los Angeles, still in commission, also is on the list to be dismantled.


BMCM Jones 3933 Friday, February 22, 2008 at 23:48:47     72.188.61.165
Mike Kaup
Looks like Claussen was an engineer and worked on many sub related engineering/propulsion projects at sub bases or tenders.
See this book with a google search of his name
Steel Boats, Iron Men: History of the U.S. Submarine Force
Dave Kent Friday, February 22, 2008 at 21:50:43     68.9.251.239
The most important man in the history of the Navy Supply Corps was Commodore Horatio Bridge, who served during the Civil War. It is for him that USS BRIDGE (two of them) was named, not for a structure that takes you across a river.
Mike Kaup Friday, February 22, 2008 at 21:26:51     98.203.206.115
Can anyone tell me on what subs and in what capacity Commander Carl C. Claussen served?

Thanks!, Mike Kaup


Don Tjossem Friday, February 22, 2008 at 20:33:49     64.91.111.214

From the Navy News Service

1795 - The U.S. Navy Office of Purveyor of Supplies is established. This is officially recognized as the Navy Supply Corps Birthday.

1919 - USS Osmond Ingram (DD 255), the first Navy ship named for an enlisted man, is commissioned.

1944 - Carrier groups under Adm. Raymond Spruance attack Saipan, Tinian and Rota in the Marianas.

1945 - U.S. Marines and a Navy corpsman raise the American flag on Mt. Suribachi, Iwo Jima. The scene has been forever remembered on the U.S. Marine Corps War Memorial in Washington, D.C.



BMCM Jones 3933 Friday, February 22, 2008 at 19:47:56     72.188.61.165
The Navy took delivery of its newest attack submarine, Pre-commissioning unit North Carolina (SSN 777), from Northrop Grumman Newport News (NGNN) Feb. 21. North Carolina is the fourth Virginia-class submarine and the second delivered by NGNN.
Commissioning is still set for 3 May
ken moffitt Friday, February 22, 2008 at 19:39:44     76.23.183.99
Hello stewart
sorry I missed you I was comparing some of my covers to those listed at the "museum"
sTEWART b. mILSTEIN Friday, February 22, 2008 at 19:24:28     69.137.177.43
Hi Ken.

Village computer center is closing - bbl


Rich Hoffner Friday, February 22, 2008 at 17:47:13     68.80.47.48
Approval today from Tacoma WA for Great White Fleet pictorial dated June 2, 2008. In person you can go to the Downtown Tacoma Sta. on the date of the postmark. By Mail send cover to: USPS, Customer Realtions Coordinator, Attn: Dennis Shimomura, 4001 Pine St., Tacoma WA 98413-9996
lbbrennan Friday, February 22, 2008 at 14:2:5     70.111.144.242
Duane, Never made the train with the weather here and the office closed at noon anyway. Did more at home than if I had been a commuter. Spoke with some folks in Switzerland who are enjoying spring and in Hawaii where it is always perfect weather.

Glad to see that the search function has been improved. We should never forget to thank Karl Zurn and his team for this wonderful -- free -- site. Enjoy/

Larry


Dave Kent Friday, February 22, 2008 at 13:18:41     68.9.251.239
I got an email from Nancy Sigmund, our webmaster, saying she had replaced the old search function with Google. They are struggling with the constant need to upgrade technology, and some upgrade kept the old search from working properly. What I worry about is that some future upgrade will keep our old Chat Room software from working any more. There are other Chat Room software packages, but I like this one best.
Steve Shay Friday, February 22, 2008 at 11:21:4     12.72.195.78
The Search function is working again on our site. A new search engine has been installed, using a Google search engine. This is a better search tool.
Duane Wilson Friday, February 22, 2008 at 9:39:58     204.124.92.254
Good Morning LB. Are you on the train or at work?
Dan Goodwin Friday, February 22, 2008 at 7:19:51     74.69.249.233
Not to worry Greg. Dumpsters are a thing of the past. Everything is shredded now.
Dan Goodwin Friday, February 22, 2008 at 7:18:54     74.69.249.233
When the "election" postmarks surfaced in '04 I asked the town clerk if I could have the envelopes that contained military ballots. She told me no, that they had to be filed or destroyed. Real stupid.
Greg Ciesielski Thursday, February 21, 2008 at 23:32:42     65.184.47.158
Rich - I'm too broken to go dumpster diving anymore. sorry...
Rich Hoffner Thursday, February 21, 2008 at 22:46:21     68.80.47.48
These GWF postmarks might prove to be harder to get then those "election" postmarks that pop up from time to time. Speaking of election ballots, do do you know anyone who works the poles? Anyone for diving into waste cans?
Rich Hoffner Thursday, February 21, 2008 at 22:42:24     68.80.47.48
More news from Washington. It now appears that letters were sent to those ships on the GWF pictorial list, to advise them of the availablilty of the postmarks, with information on how to order them. I'm thinking now that since someone left it up to each ship, we won't see many of those special postmarks in use or available. Time will tell. It now seems that it will be a cat and mouse game to find which ships participate in the use of the postmarks.
Dave Kent Thursday, February 21, 2008 at 21:43:6     68.9.249.63
....another sealth visit.....
Greg Ciesielski Thursday, February 21, 2008 at 20:49:33     65.184.47.158
hi Dave
lbbrennan Thursday, February 21, 2008 at 20:19:42     216.9.250.40
Bmcm and dan good evening. Larry
Dan Goodwin Thursday, February 21, 2008 at 20:17:30     74.69.249.233
Hi Larry. Lot going on lately.
lbbrennan Thursday, February 21, 2008 at 20:16:2     216.9.250.40
Bmcm and dan good evening. Larry
lbbrennan Thursday, February 21, 2008 at 19:45:0     38.117.188.10
Two Navy SEALs to Receive Awards after 35 Years
Story Number: NNS080220-04
Release Date: 2/20/2008 1:05:00 PM


From Naval Special Warfare Command Public Affairs

SAN DIEGO (NNS) -- Two Navy SEALs will receive awards for actions they took during a highly classified operation to rescue U.S. POWs near Thanh Hoa, North Vietnam nearly 35 years ago.

Lt. Melvin S. Dry will be posthumously awarded the Bronze Star Medal with valor and Lt. Phillip L. "Moki" Martin will be awarded the Navy and Marine Corps Commendation Medal with valor.

The awards will be presented in two separate ceremonies. The Dry family will accept the Bronze Star Medal on behalf of Lt. Dry at the U.S. Naval Academy in Annapolis, Md., on Feb. 25.

Lt. Martin will be awarded his medal at Naval Special Warfare Command Headquarters in Coronado Calif., on March 18.

In 1972, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff authorized U.S. Pacific Command to execute Operation Thunderhead in which SEALs were employed to assist in the rescue of POWs planning to escape, steal a boat and flee via the Red River to the Gulf of Tonkin. Although mission training and planning and rehearsal was conducted, the mission was aborted before execution. The operation was the first combat-use of a mini wet-submersible SEAL Delivery Vehicle (SDV).

The details of the once secret operation and the accounting of the SEALs' actions were reported in a magazine article in October of 2005.

When retired Capt. John D. Chamberlain, the then commander of the amphibious-transport submarine USS Grayback (LPSS-574) in which the SEALs were launched from during the operation, read the article and realized that neither Dry nor Martin were ever recognized.

Chamberlain collected naval messages, official documents, personal statements from witnesses and submitted awards for the two SEALs in November 2005.

The Navy authorized the medals on Oct. 26, 2007


lbbrennan Thursday, February 21, 2008 at 19:16:22     38.117.188.10
Launch some covers for a deployed ESG.

Nassau Strike Group Deploys
Story Number: NNS080220-18
Release Date: 2/20/2008 8:08:00 PM

From Nassau Strike Group Public Affairs

NORFOLK (NNS) -- The Nassau Strike Group (NASSG), with its more than 2,800 Sailors and Marines, deployed Feb. 19-20 for a regularly scheduled deployment to the Navy's 5th and 6th Fleet areas of operation in support of Maritime Security Operations (MSO).

Commanded by Capt. Robert G. Lineberry, commander, Amphibious Squadron Six, the NASSG is made up of the amphibious assault ship USS Nassau (LHA 4); the amphibious transport dock ship USS Nashville (LPD 13); the amphibious dock landing ship USS Ashland (LSD 48); the guided-missile destroyers USS Ross (DDG 71) and USS Bulkeley (DDG 84); the attack submarine USS Albany (SSN 753); all homeported at Norfolk; and the guided-missile cruiser USS Philippine Sea (CG 58), homeported at Mayport, Fla.

Philippine Sea departed from Mayport on Feb. 19, with Ashland deploying from Naval Amphibious Base Little Creek, Va., on the same day. The remaining ships departed Naval Station Norfolk on Feb. 20.

During the past few months, the strike group has conducted several training exercises and passed multiple certifications in its pre-deployment preparation cycle.

MSO helps set the conditions for security and stability in the maritime environment, as well as complement the counterterrorism and security efforts of regional nations. These operations seek to disrupt violent extremists' use of the maritime environment as a venue for attack or to transport personnel, weapons or other material.

While in theater, the strike group will also support the other tenets of the Navy's Maritime Strategy, which include forward presence, deterrence, sea control, power projection, and humanitarian assistance/disaster response. The Maritime Strategy represents a new vision for the 21st century and establishes new capabilities to codify longstanding challenges, while maintaining our focus on enduring missions.

For more news from Nassau Strike Group, visit www.news.navy.mil/local/esg8/.


Dennis Brophy Thursday, February 21, 2008 at 19:8:54     64.136.27.226
Hey Larry
Mike Brock Thursday, February 21, 2008 at 17:2:44     67.168.232.131
Covers from Groton arrived in Oregon. USS CITY of CORPUS CHRISTI 25th Anniversary 1-8-08. Nicely done.
Stewart B. Milstein Thursday, February 21, 2008 at 15:30:25     12.72.119.96
bbl
Stewart B. Milstein Thursday, February 21, 2008 at 15:28:31     12.72.119.96
Hi Thad.
lbbrennan Thursday, February 21, 2008 at 10:47:59     38.117.188.10
Navy Succeeds In Intercepting Non-Functioning Satellite
Story Number: NNS080220-19
Release Date: 2/20/2008 11:23:00 PM

From the Department of Defense

WASHINGTON (NNS) -- A network of land-, air-, sea- and spaced-based sensors confirms that the U.S. military intercepted a non-functioning National Reconnaissance Office satellite which was in its final orbits before entering the earth's atmosphere.

At approximately 10:26 p.m. EST, Feb. 20, a U.S. Navy AEGIS warship, USS Lake Erie (CG-70), fired a single modified tactical Standard Missile-3 (SM-3) hitting the satellite approximately 133 nautical miles over the Pacific Ocean as it traveled in space at more than 17,000 mph. USS Decatur (DDG-73) and USS Russell (DDG-59) were also part of the task force.

The objective was to rupture the fuel tank to dissipate the approximately 1,000 pounds of hydrazine, a hazardous fuel which could be harmful, before it entered into earth's atmosphere. Confirmation that the fuel tank has been fragmented should be available within 24 hours.

Due to the relatively low altitude of the satellite at the time of the engagement, debris will begin to re-enter the earth's atmosphere immediately. Nearly all of the debris will burn up on reentry within 24-48 hours and the remaining debris should re-enter within 40 days.

DoD will conduct a press briefing at 7 a.m. EST to provide further information related to the operation. The briefing can be viewed live on www.Defenselink.mil through the Pentagon Channel.


Greg Ciesielski Thursday, February 21, 2008 at 9:8:1     65.184.47.158
bbl
Greg Ciesielski Thursday, February 21, 2008 at 9:5:42     65.184.47.158
John Y - Thanks for the comments and suggestion. OK I'll try another. Who has covers from "BOYER"? That is the cachetmaker's name and not a ship.
Greg Ciesielski Thursday, February 21, 2008 at 9:3:23     65.184.47.158
Rich - You have one GWF cover coming from me!
Lyding Thursday, February 21, 2008 at 8:56:3     69.140.90.224
Rich Hoffner - I will send you an Adm. Byrd Chapter GWF cover this afternoon.
lbbrennan Thursday, February 21, 2008 at 8:43:14     216.9.250.26
More details on Lake Erie's kill from this morning New York times

Missile Strikes a Spy Satellite Falling From Its Orbit U.S. Navy handout via Associated PressThe missile launching from the Lake Erie, an Aegis-class cruiser, on Wednesday night.
By THOM SHANKERPublished: February 21, 2008

WASHINGTON - Just hours after a Navy missile interceptor struck a dying spy satellite orbiting 130 miles over the Pacific Ocean, a senior military officer expressed high confidence early Thursday that a tank filled with toxic rocket fuel had been breached.
Video of the unusual operation showed the missile leaving a bright trail as it streaked toward the satellite, and then a flash, a fireball, a plume and a cloud as the interceptor, at a minimum, appeared to have found its target, a satellite that went dead shortly after being launched in 2006.
"We're very confident that we hit the satellite," said Gen. James E. Cartwright of the Marines, vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. "We also have a high degree of confidence that we got the tank."
General Cartwright cautioned that despite visual and spectral evidence that the hydrazine rocket fuel had been dispersed, it could take 24 to 48 hours before the Pentagon could announce with full confidence that the mission was a success. Even so, he said the military had 80 to 90 percent confidence the fuel tank was breached.
The fuel tank aboard the satellite was believed strong enough to survive the fiery re-entry through the atmosphere, and officials expressed concerns that the toxic fuel could pose a hazard to populated areas.
General Cartwright said debris from the strike, with individual pieces no larger than a football, already had begun to re-enter the atmosphere. Most, he said, was predicted to fall into the ocean.
Even so, the State Department was alerting American embassies around the world so they could keep their host governments informed, and the Federal Emergency Management Agency had put out instructions to first responders across the United States about steps to take should hazardous debris fall in populated areas.
The first international reaction came from China, where the government objected on Thursday to the American missile strike, warning that the United States Navy's action could threaten security in outer space.
Liu Jianchao, the Chinese foreign ministry's spokesman, said at a news conference in Beijing that the United States should also share data promptly about what will become of the remaining pieces of the satellite, which are expected to re-enter the Earth's atmosphere and mostly burn up in the next two days.
"China is continuously following closely the possible harm caused by the U.S. action to outer space security and relevant countries," Mr. Liu said, according to the Associated Press. "China requests the U.S. to fulfill its international obligations in real earnest and provide to the international community necessary information and relevant data in a timely and prompt way so that relevant countries can take precautions."
American officials were critical of China last year for using an anti-satellite weapon to destroy a satellite in a much higher orbit in January 2007 and then refusing to confirm the test for nearly two weeks. The Chinese test produced 1,600 pieces of debris that are expected to orbit the Earth for years, preventing other spacecraft from using the same or similar orbits.
During a Pentagon news conference Thursday morning, General Cartwright rebuffed those who said the mission was, at least in part, organized to showcase American missile defense or anti-satellite capabilities.
He said the missile itself had to be reconfigured from its task of tracking and hitting an adversary's warhead to instead find a cold, tumbling satellite. "This was a one-time modification," General Cartwright said.
Sensors from the American missile defense system were an important part of this mission, though, he said.
He stressed that "the intent here was to preserve human life," but also acknowledged that "the technical degree of difficulty was significant" and the accomplishment earned cheers from personnel in command centers across the military, as well.
Completing a mission in which an interceptor designed for missile defense was used for the first time to attack a satellite, the Lake Erie, an Aegis-class cruiser, fired a single missile just before 10:30 p.m. Eastern time, and the missile hit the satellite as it traveled at more than 17,000 miles per hour, the Pentagon said in its official announcement.
"A network of land-, air-, sea- and spaced-based sensors confirms that the U.S. military intercepted a nonfunctioning National Reconnaissance Office satellite which was in its final orbits before entering the Earth's atmosphere," the statement said.
By early Wednesday, three Navy warships were in position in the Pacific Ocean to launch the interceptors and to track the mission.
Radar and other tracking equipment, both in space and on the ground, were monitored at Vandenberg Air Force Base, in California, and at a space command headquarters in Colorado Springs, with control of the operation managed by the Strategic Command in Omaha, Neb.
Although the satellite circled the globe every 90 minutes, analysts pinpointed a single overhead pass each day that would offer the best chance of striking the satellite and then having half of the debris fall into the atmosphere in the next three orbits over water or less-populated areas of the Earth.
Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates, who left Washington on Wednesday for a week of meetings in Asia, had been empowered by President Bush to issue the order to shoot down the satellite and gave the order several hours before the strike.
The many moving parts of a mission to shoot down a dying spy satellite with an antimissile interceptor were lined up earlier Wednesday after the space shuttle Atlantis returned to Earth, officials said.
Military officials said their goal had been to carry out the mission before March 1, when the satellite was expected to start skidding against the upper reaches of the atmosphere.
That initial friction would bump the satellite into a more unpredictable Earth orbit, even before it started a fiery descent through the atmosphere.
Providing new information about how the mission would be carried out, a senior military officer on Wednesday described the vessels, weapons and command structure for the operation
The senior military officer said the mission would be launched in daylight to take advantage of radar, heat-sensor tracking and visual tracking equipment. The Navy had a window that lasted only tens of seconds as the satellite passed overhead, military officers said.
The Lake Erie has two Standard Missile 3 rockets that were adapted to track the cold satellite, as opposed to the heated enemy warheads for which it was designed. A second ship, the destroyer Decatur, had a third missile as backup. Another Navy destroyer, the Russell, sailed with the convoy for added tracking capabilities.
The 5,000-pound satellite, roughly the size of a school bus, was managed by the National Reconnaissance Office and went dead shortly after it was launched in December 2006.
The FEMA document notes, "Any debris should be considered potentially hazardous, and first responders should not attempt to pick it up or move it."


Dan Goodwin Thursday, February 21, 2008 at 8:25:45     74.69.249.233
Rich Hoffner - Try Richard Hall or Greg Ciesielski for GWF covers. I have copies from both and they are real good. Unfortunately I have only one of my own left.
john young Thursday, February 21, 2008 at 6:54:10     67.83.193.69
Greg C: Lawrence collection covers look good. You should solicit more, especially for needed cachet makers. You had six different sources!
Rich Hoffner Thursday, February 21, 2008 at 0:37:57     68.80.47.48
Does anyone have one of the Hampton Roads GWF (12-16-070 cancels or covers available? Anyone do covers? I missed it.
Greg Ciesielski Thursday, February 21, 2008 at 0:14:7     65.184.47.158
Elgin - Thanks for the Lawrence scans!
Thanks also to Dave Kent, Paul Helman, Steve Shay, Don Tjossem, John Young and Helen Fowler for also donating scanned John Lawrence covers.
lbbrennan Wednesday, February 20, 2008 at 23:14:56     216.9.250.63
The latest from the NY times but overcome by events

LATEST NEWS Task of Shooting Down Satellite Begins
By THOM SHANKERPublished: February 20, 2008

WASHINGTON - The many moving parts of a mission to shoot down a dying spy satellite with an anti-missile interceptor lined up Wednesday after the space shuttle Atlantis returned to Earth, officials said.
Military officials were reviewing the weather in the Pacific Ocean to determine if the operation could be launched overnight on Wednesday, as rough seas west of Hawaii prompted officials to caution that the attempt to destroy the satellite, carrying 1,000 pounds of toxic rocket fuel, might be delayed.
The goal of the mission is to prevent the fuel tank from reaching Earth and spilling its hazardous contents in a populous area. In the event that any of the hydrazine fuel falls on a populated area, the Federal Emergency Management Agency on Wednesday issued directions to community first responders on how to deal with dangerous debris from the satellite.
Military officials said their goal was to carry out the mission before March 1, when the satellite is predicted to start skidding against the upper reaches of the atmosphere. That initial friction would bump the satellite into a more unpredictable orbit around the Earth, even before it starts a fiery descent through the atmosphere.
Providing new information about how the mission would be carried out, a senior military officer on Wednesday described the vessels, weapons and command structure for the unusual operation, the first time an interceptor designed for missile defense would be used to attack a satellite. The senior military officer briefed reporters on condition of anonymity.
The officer said that three Navy warships were in position in the Pacific Ocean to launch the interceptors, and that radar and other tracking equipment, both in space and on the ground, were being monitored at Vandenberg Air Force Base, in California, and at a space command headquarters in Colorado Springs.
The operation is being controlled from the Strategic Command headquarters in Omaha, Neb., with additional monitoring of information transmitted from the interceptor managed by the Pentagon's Missile Defense Agency.
Although the satellite circles the globe every 90 minutes, analysts have pinpointed a single overhead pass each day that would offer the best chance of striking it and then having half of the debris fall into the atmosphere during the very next three orbits over water or less-populated areas of the Earth.
Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates, who left Washington on Wednesday for a week of meetings in Asia, has been empowered by President Bush to issue the order to shoot down the satellite. Officials said Mr. Gates would have to weigh the opportunity of success against the many risks - including weather, technical problems and even world politics - before issuing the order.
Given rough seas on Wednesday, it was likely the mission would await at least a day. As the deadline approaches, officials said, such moderate risks as high seas might be overlooked.
The senior military officer said the mission would be launched in daylight to take advantage of radar, heat-sensor tracking and even visual tracking equipment.
When the order is given to carry out the mission, the Navy will have a window that lasts only tens of seconds as the satellite passes overhead, the senior military officer said.
An Aegis cruiser, the Lake Erie, has two Standard Missile 3 rockets on board that have been adapted to track the cold satellite, as opposed to the heated enemy warheads for which it was designed. A second Aegis ship, the Decatur, has a third missile as back-up, and another Navy vessel, the Russell, is sailing with the convoy for added tracking capabilities - what the senior military officer described as providing a "stereo picture."
Separately, a Pentagon spokesman, Bryan Whitman, dismissed suggestions that the operation was designed to test the nation's missile defense systems or antisatellite capabilities, or that the effort was to destroy sensitive intelligence equipment.
"This is about reducing the risk to human life on Earth - nothing more," Mr. Whitman said.
While officials should be able to determine within minutes of the launch whether the satellite was hit by the interceptor, which carries no explosive but strikes with destructive force, it may take a day or more to determine whether the fuel tank with 1,000 pounds of toxic Hydrazine was destroyed. Any decision to launch a second or third missile may take several days.
The 5,000-pound satellite, roughly the size of a school bus, is managed by the National Reconnaissance Office and went dead shortly after it was launched in December 2006.
FEMA on Wednesday issued an 18-page instructions document, "First Responder Guide For Space Object Re-Entry," to help local authorities deal with debris from the satellite should it fall in their areas. "The satellite that is degrading from orbit has hazardous materials on board that could pose immediate hazards to people if they come in contact with the material," the FEMA document states. "Any debris should be considered potentially hazardous, and first responders should not attempt to pick it up or move it. First responders should secure a perimeter and control access around any debris. DO NOT pick up any debris."
The document describes specific dangers posed by the hazardous material, what protective clothing is required for emergency workers in the vicinity, and how to manage populations near a site where debris falls.


lbbrennan Wednesday, February 20, 2008 at 22:50:36     216.9.250.65
Lake Erie killed the satellite. First report on tv
Dan Goodwin Wednesday, February 20, 2008 at 22:16:24     74.69.249.233
USS PORTLAND CA-33
75th Anniversary Pictorial Cancellation Station
PO Box 3480
Portland, OR 97208-3480
Steve Shay Wednesday, February 20, 2008 at 22:12:2     12.72.195.212
The February Log finally arrived in the Bay Area. The pony it was traveling on is really tired.
Rich Hoffner Wednesday, February 20, 2008 at 21:15:37     68.80.47.48
Sorry that should be Mike Brock, not "M"
Rich Hoffner Wednesday, February 20, 2008 at 21:14:59     68.80.47.48
I have an address for Linda Odom @ 97208-4750 but somehow that does not seem right?
Rich Hoffner Wednesday, February 20, 2008 at 21:9:33     68.80.47.48
Mike M - did you list the address for the PORTLAND postmark here in the "chat". I can't locate it...
esink Wednesday, February 20, 2008 at 21:5:21     71.230.29.41
Greg Ciesielski: just sent "Lawrence" scans...
Rich Hoffner Wednesday, February 20, 2008 at 20:59:8     68.80.47.48
Greg C - different Greg...
lbbrennan Wednesday, February 20, 2008 at 20:50:12     216.9.250.101
Friends can help share the cost of sending covers to each ship. If five members worked together each could write to about 15 ships sending along one cover per collector. That reduces the cost of shipping by 80%. Teamwork a USCS tradition.
Dan Goodwin Wednesday, February 20, 2008 at 20:18:18     74.69.249.233
BBL
Dan Goodwin Wednesday, February 20, 2008 at 20:17:32     74.69.249.233
The Norfolk GWF cancel was 3.75" by 1.5". The Hampton Roads cancel was about 2.75" by 1.75". I guess I can get around those dimensions.
Greg Ciesielski Wednesday, February 20, 2008 at 20:16:56     65.184.47.158
BBL
Greg Ciesielski Wednesday, February 20, 2008 at 20:13:26     65.184.47.158
Dan,
If you got the 1st GWF postmark from Norfolk that was about the max. size. They issued it the same size I created it.

Greg Ciesielski Wednesday, February 20, 2008 at 20:12:14     65.184.47.158
Hey Rich - What cover?

Hi Dan!


Dan Goodwin Wednesday, February 20, 2008 at 20:11:53     74.69.249.233
Hi Greg.
Dan Goodwin Wednesday, February 20, 2008 at 20:11:14     74.69.249.233
I believe the maximum allowable size for a pictorial is 4" wide by 2" high. That doesn't leave much room for a cachet. Recently I have sent a note with requests for pictorials asking "please place cancel on bottom of stamp as far right as possible". I have had 100% success with this request.
Stewart B. Milstein Wednesday, February 20, 2008 at 19:49:40     12.72.118.184
bbl
Rich Hoffner Wednesday, February 20, 2008 at 19:48:23     68.80.47.48
Hi Stew, mild 20's here with no winds or snow. Just another balmey day in the NE corridor.
Rich Hoffner Wednesday, February 20, 2008 at 19:47:39     68.80.47.48
Anyone want both jpegs, let me know I'll email it.
Stewart B. Milstein Wednesday, February 20, 2008 at 19:47:26     12.72.118.184
Hi Rich.
Rich Hoffner Wednesday, February 20, 2008 at 19:44:3     68.80.47.48
Mike, I have seen the list and one of the cancels, the one for the USS ABRAHAM LINCOLN. There is also one for Washington DC (The Pentagon). The list has a lot of decommissioned ships on it. I forwarded a copy to Rich Jones for the Log, and he will delete any ships on the list that are not in commission. It also has some MCM's and a few SSN's. I also see USS CONSTITUTION at Charlestown MA on the list. GRASP, GRAPPLE and JFK are on the list, to name a few decommissioned ships. I did not see any USNS ships on the list. I'm sure that recently commissioned ships will be missing. So, we will not see 160 different ships cancels, but somewhere in that vacinity. Perhaps Steve Shay can have the A. LINCLON cancel placed on this website. This will all be in the 2-28-08 PB. The cancel is vary elaborate, and I can only imagine how large it would have to be to show all the detail.
Mike Meister Wednesday, February 20, 2008 at 19:28:41     64.12.116.137
If you go by the January LOG it lists about 153 ships currently with Post Offices. Maybe a few shore stations in that 160??
Dan Goodwin Wednesday, February 20, 2008 at 16:30:56     74.69.249.233
Spreading it out over one year won't be as bad as one month. If DOD is pushing this, perhaps we can now get cancels from those "collector unfriendly" ships. I wonder if this 160 includes any MSC ships.
Rich Hoffner Wednesday, February 20, 2008 at 13:46:16     68.80.47.48
If this program is successful, it will mean an expenditure of $459.20 for a collector to send to 160 ships, including return (SASE) and five covers per ship (DOD limit). These could turn out to be an elusive cancel to add to your collection in future years. Forever stamps recommended in my view, so that no one tries to collect postage due on the covers that will return later in the year.
Rich Hoffner Wednesday, February 20, 2008 at 13:34:48     68.80.47.48
Hi Greg, where's my cover?
Rich Hoffner Wednesday, February 20, 2008 at 13:31:53     68.80.47.48
Additionally the same collector discussed those recently denials for pictorial cancels. According to this contact in DC, these rejections should not occur. He stated that the rewritten publications with reference to pictorial postmarks, stated that attendance at events can be waived. He is apparently calling those post office that rejected pictorials, to tell them to issue the cancels. Good news? We shall see.
Rich Hoffner Wednesday, February 20, 2008 at 13:27:43     68.80.47.48
A collector has contacted the USPS HQ in DC and verified that there will be 160 ships provided with a GWF postmark. The date in the cancel will be 2-22-08. The cancel is reported to be available for one year. It will be announced in the PB of 2-22-08 as I mentioned in an earlier note here. It was further stated that there will be a second cancel issued on 2-22-09, at the end of GWF centennial. It will be an interesting collection if it all goes well. DOD was reportedly the source of the idea.
lbbrennan Wednesday, February 20, 2008 at 8:17:24     216.9.250.101
The best way to communicate with a crew member is via mail if you can get an address.
Rich Hoffner Wednesday, February 20, 2008 at 0:56:35     68.80.47.48
Roger, it is the Brooklyn Main Post Office.
Dave Kent Tuesday, February 19, 2008 at 22:37:25     68.9.249.63
Paul Huber just sent a photo of his son's newborn twins, Nathan and Lily. They were born at the National Naval Medical Center (their father, the Huber's son, is a Harrier pilot in the Marine Corps). I'll be glad to forward to anyone who wants to see it. Paul Huber was our original website host when they lived in Virginia, and his site programmer found the software we use for the chat room.
Dave Kent Tuesday, February 19, 2008 at 22:32:42     68.9.249.63
I sent a note to the webmaster about the search problem.
lbbrennan Tuesday, February 19, 2008 at 21:40:26     216.9.250.44
Aegis destroyer hits boat / 2 missing after MSDF ship collides with fishing vessel
The Yomiuri Shimbun

Two fishermen were missing after a Maritime Self-Defense Force Aegis-equipped destroyer collided with a fishing boat in the Pacific off Boso Peninsula in Chiba Prefecture early Tuesday morning, the MSDF and the Japan Coast Guard said.
The 7,750-ton Atago plowed into the 7.3-ton Seitoku Maru 42 kilometers south of Nojimazaki cape at about 4:10 a.m., according to the officials.
As a result of the clash, the fishing boat's hull was broken in two, the officials said.
Prime Minister Yasuo Fukuda criticized poor communications within the ministry after learning that Defense Minister Shigeru Ishiba did not receive an initial report on the incident until 90 minutes had elapsed.
Among the MSDF's five Aegis-equipped destroyers, the Atago, which was commissioned in March last year, is the latest version of the destroyer equipped with the advanced radar system, according to the MSDF.
The accident was the first major collision in 20 years between an MSDF vessel and a fishing boat since the Nadashio, an MSDF submarine, hit the Fuji Maru No. 1, a leisure boat carrying anglers, off Yokosuka Port, Kanagawa Prefecture, in July 1988, killing 30 people.
According to the Third Regional Coast Guard Headquarters, aboard the fishing boat were the captain, Haruo Kichisei, 58, of Katsuura, Chiba Prefecture, and his 23-year-old son, Tetsuhiro. Both were missing after the accident, the coast guard said.
JCG officials said they received a report on the incident from the Atago at 4:23 a.m., which reportedly said the Seitoku Maru had been sundered but was still floating. MSDF officers reportedly added that they were unable to locate any of the boat's crew. It is believed the destroyer plowed into the side of the fishing boat. Abrasions believed to have been produced at the time of the collision were visible on the right side of the Atago's bow from a Yomiuri Shimbun helicopter.
JCG officials attached a device called an airlifter to the disparate parts of the fishing boat to stop them from sinking, before searching the two interiors for survivors--a search that proved fruitless.
At the time of the accident, there reportedly was a north-northeast wind of about 7 meters per second, waves of about 50 centimeters, and clear visibility.
According to the Kawazu branch of Shin-Katsuura fishermen's cooperative, the Seitoku Maru set off from Kawazu Port at about 2 a.m. Tuesday with seven other vessels to fish for tuna. The vessels planned to head for waters off Hachijojima island after fishing for mackerel off Izu-Oshima island to use as bait. They were scheduled to return to the port at about 9 to 10 p.m. later the same day.
When the fishermen's cooperative contacted the Kinpei Maru, one of the other fishing boats, crew members reportedly said they had spotted an MSDF destroyer.
The MSDF Staff Office established a committee to investigate the accident the same day. MSDF officials said the Atago was on normal night duty at the time of the incident.
Under law, to avoid collisions at sea, vessels are supposed to keep to their respective starboard sides, in principle, when cutting across each other. When planned routes mean that crossing paths is inevitable, the vessel that sees the other on its starboard side is required to change its course to avoid a clash.
However, because an operational fishing boat always takes priority, other vessels must move to accommodate the fishing boat.
It is considered highly likely the Atago bore the responsibility to change direction to avoid a collision at the time of the accident. Usually, a ship taking such action would sound its horn as a warning while steering away from the approaching vessel.
But the crew members of the seven fishing boats sailing with the Seitoku Maru said they did not hear a horn sound before the collision occurred.
The Atago, which is 165 meters long and 21 meters wide, has a crew of about 300.
After leaving the MSDF's Maizuru base in Kyoto Prefecture on Oct. 25, the Atago arrived in waters off Hawaii on Nov. 8. After test-firing SM-2 interceptor missiles, the destroyer headed for Japan and was scheduled to arrive in Yokosuka on Tuesday.
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JCG searches Atago
Meanwhile, the Yokosuka Coast Guard Office on Tuesday night questioned Capt. Ken Funato of the Atago, and other crew on how the collision occurred, JCG officials said.
JCG officers started a search of the Aegis destroyer at 5:30 p.m. on the day, on suspicion of professional negligence resulting in endangering ocean traffic.
It is rare for the JCG to start a criminal investigation on the day of an accident.
Sources close to the investigation said it may be the first time since the Nadashio accident that an MSDF vessel has been searched by the JCG over a marine accident.
The JCG was questioning Funato and other crew mainly about the following points:
-- The lookout arrangement at the time of the accident.
-- When exactly the destroyer identified the boat and the locations of the two vessels at that time.
-- What actions the destroyer took to prevent a collision.
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Fukuda: Info relayed too slowly
Fukuda told reporters Tuesday afternoon at the Prime Minister's Office that he personally received information about the accident via an aide at about 6 a.m.
When asked why there had been a delay in relaying information to the defense minister, Fukuda replied: "This accident is a Defense Ministry matter. If there's the possibility that an accident has been fatal, the minister should be informed immediately."
Fukuda also criticized Defense Ministry lines of communication.
"I told Mr. Ishiba it was slow," Fukuda said. "At any rate, communication to the defense minister was slow."
Meanwhile, Fukuda expressed his regret over the accident at the House of Representatives plenary session on Tuesday.
"It's extremely regrettable that such an accident happened. I wonder why the MSDF couldn't prevent it," Fukuda said. "A thorough investigation into the incident must be conducted and preventive measures taken so such an accident never happens again."
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Reporting rules revised
Following the delay in reporting information about the accident to the defense minister, the Defense Ministry revised Tuesday instructions from the administrative vice defense minister, requiring chiefs of staff of the Ground, Air and Maritime Self-Defense Forces to make an initial report on important accidents and incidents directly to the defense minister.
Under the current rules, Self-Defense Force staff offices are required to make an initial report on important incidents to the defense minister via the minister's secretary within one hour. However, following yesterday's accident, MSDF Staff Office are believed to have sent a report only to the MSDF's Chief of Staff and Defense Ministry officials. As a result, Ishiba received an initial report on the accident about 40 minutes after the chief of staff recognized it.
Ishiba reported the revision to Fukuda at the Prime Minister's Office, while Fukuda asked Ishiba to ensure the MSDF carries out the revision properly.
Dan Goodwin Tuesday, February 19, 2008 at 19:11:39     74.69.249.233
Duane Wilson, I get the same error message on "search".
Dan Goodwin Tuesday, February 19, 2008 at 16:55:26     74.69.249.233
This also shows how disconnected the Postal Service is (and I use the word "service" loosely). Apparantly rules are different for different parts of the country, or there are some managers who shouldn't be.
Dan Goodwin Tuesday, February 19, 2008 at 16:50:22     74.69.249.233
The post office in Portland, Maine also rejected a pictorial for the CA-33 75th anniversary because "there was no event to attend". (The same cancel was approved by Portland, Oregon thanks to Mike Brock). Don't the postal dummies understand that they are losing money by rejecting and would probably lose more money by attending "an event"?
Duane Wilson Tuesday, February 19, 2008 at 16:39:54     204.124.92.254
I don't want to be a party to any misbehavior.
Duane Wilson Tuesday, February 19, 2008 at 16:39:9     204.124.92.254
Has anyone tried to use the search feature lately. I got the following error message when I tried a few minutes ago:

CGI Error
The specified CGI application misbehaved by not returning a complete set of HTTP headers.


Duane Wilson Tuesday, February 19, 2008 at 16:35:55     204.124.92.254
Good afternoon Roger.
Roger Wentworth Tuesday, February 19, 2008 at 16:20:14     75.91.113.209
Rich,
Is the address below for the USS IOWA annv. pictorial a post office??
Rich Hoffner Tuesday, February 19, 2008 at 15:18:7     68.80.47.48
Mailing address for GWF pictorials approved by the Bay Valley District:

Santa Cruz Main Post Office
Great White Fleet postmark
850 Front St
Santa Cruz, CA 95060-9998

Monterey Main Post Office
Great White Fleet posrmark
565 Hartnell St
Monterey, CA 93940-9998

Keep in mind that these are for May 1 (Monterey) and May 2 (Santa Cruz), so wait until the end of April before you sned for your covers to be postmarked.


Rich Hoffner Tuesday, February 19, 2008 at 15:4:5     68.80.47.48
USPS Bay Valley District in California notified me via email today that cancels for GWF at Monterey CA on May 1 and at Santa Cruz, CA on May 2 have been approved. I will post mailing addresses here when I get them.
Rich Hoffner Tuesday, February 19, 2008 at 14:58:33     68.80.47.48
Pictorial postmark for USS IOWA 65th Anniversary on 2-22-08 is approved. Send to:
Retail Marketing, USS IOWA Anniversary, Attn: Linda Revello, 1050 Forbell Street, Brooklyn, NY 11256

Rich Hoffner Tuesday, February 19, 2008 at 14:23:29     68.80.47.48
Mike M - CV-63 website says she goes to the West Coast, most likely it will be San Diego. However, Bremerton is also a possibility.
Rich Hoffner Tuesday, February 19, 2008 at 14:20:27     68.80.47.48
I just spoke with the USPS Maine District postal folks with reference to the 45th Anniversary memorial pictorial I submitted for the loss of the USS THRESHER (4-10-08). They were asking if there was an "event" they could attend. I advised that there would be a memorial service, probably attended by a few shipyard employees, but not open to the public for security reasons. So, with no event to attend, they will not issue a pictorial postmark. They stated they would come to an event if there were a couple of hundred people in attendence. I reminded them that they did issue a postmark for this memorial in 2003. They checked their files and found it, but said that whoever was in charge then, did not follow the regulations regarding pictorial cancels. I also had a call from the USPS Vermont / New Hampshire District. They left a message for me to call them. I called them this morning, but got an answering machine and I am waiting for a call back. I suspect I will get the same response with reference to attending a function. I had submitted a similar pictorial to them for Postsmouth NH post office. I will post any updates from them. This does not bode well for pictorial postmarks. NYC rejected a pictorial for Fleet Week in NYC in 2007 and I suspect we will see more of this. I doubt that all of the GWF postmarks I have requested on the West Coast will be approved. Time will tell.
Mike Meister Tuesday, February 19, 2008 at 14:19:17     207.200.116.8
Rich H. Seawaves lists both Kitty Hawk and George Washington in Pearl Harbor in July so I'm guessing thats where the swap will take place. No word on where or when the KW will go after that.
Rich Hoffner Tuesday, February 19, 2008 at 13:55:44     68.80.47.48
Detlev, there is no second cancel. The first one (real design) has not been approved yet. The USPS will not issue two cancels for the same event. It is getting more difficult to get any pictorials approved, let alone two on teh same day. That second cancel was just a spoof.
Rich Hoffner Tuesday, February 19, 2008 at 13:53:34     68.80.47.48
I have my doubts anyone can talk to the PC on the phone aboard the Reagan. Outside calls go to the quarterdeck. Best bet is to find out a name and use the .mil email address to send a message, or just write to the C.O.P.E., which will be a PCC in the post office.
George W Forby Tuesday, February 19, 2008 at 12:34:18     207.200.116.8
Does anyone know the phone number of the postal clerk on the USS Reagan. Thank you
Detlev Mehlis Tuesday, February 19, 2008 at 12:4:15     85.178.228.217
Again on the "second" EAGLE cancel: By now it has made it's way into the German LOG!
Detlev Mehlis Tuesday, February 19, 2008 at 11:47:21     85.178.228.217
Thank's Rich for the EAGLE-info. Great idea to have that second cancel.
Dan Goodwin Tuesday, February 19, 2008 at 11:14:17     74.69.249.233
Checked the stamprm store and there are NO T-AKE-1 class covers available.
Rich Hoffner Tuesday, February 19, 2008 at 10:49:52     68.80.47.48
No word yet on Deactivation date for USS KITTY HAWK CV-63, but her website advises that she will leave Japan this summer. I suspect June. They also say that as deactivation/decommissioning dates are known, the information will be on the website. Grec C and I are wresling with designs for the ship, San Diego and Kitty Hawk NC.
Rich Hoffner Tuesday, February 19, 2008 at 10:45:59     68.80.47.48
Also planning a reunion cancel for the crew members of the boats built in Manitowoc for May this year. Feelers out to organizations involved.
Rich Hoffner Tuesday, February 19, 2008 at 10:44:48     68.80.47.48
Did a postmark for the reunion of the Game Wardens TF-116, part of the Brown Water Navy in Vietnam in the Mekong Delta. Their association president approved the final design, showing their crest. Convention is this summer in Norfolk VA. Should make for some fine covers with a little imagination. Some very unique Navy ships were involved in the Meking Delta. So, get out your RVN Free mail covers and see what you have.
Rich Hoffner Tuesday, February 19, 2008 at 10:40:35     68.80.47.48
On covers from Groton post office. I was told that the January cancels from Groton CT would be coming through in February. I just checked and the clerk who is reported to have some sort of collector experience (don't know what he collects) has been out of work with a broken finger. Well, I guess we can forget February for getting covers back. Just to bring you up to date.
Glenn Smith Tuesday, February 19, 2008 at 4:49:48     138.210.189.62
Dan & Rich:
Phil's store is stamprm vice stmprm.
Hope this helps.
Greg Ciesielski Monday, February 18, 2008 at 23:44:56     65.184.47.158
Hello LB - train, cab or car now?
Rich Hoffner Monday, February 18, 2008 at 23:14:43     68.80.47.48
Dan - check with USCS member Phil Rosenberg. He sells covers, and covers just about everything. Sells on eBay as stmprm, I think. Has a store there.
Dan Goodwin Monday, February 18, 2008 at 20:15:53     74.69.249.233
I have been looking for available covers for Lewis & Clark class ships. Can't find any on ebay. Any suggestions on where else to look?
Stewart B. Milstein Monday, February 18, 2008 at 18:5:20     12.72.118.205
bbl
Stewart B. Milstein Monday, February 18, 2008 at 18:3:37     12.72.118.205
If this was not a contrived holiday, the stores would have had to create one just for all the "special holiday sales." Some schools are open so that they can close next week for the rodeo. What nonsense.
Stewart B. Milstein Monday, February 18, 2008 at 18:0:52     12.72.118.205
Hi Don
Dan Goodwin Monday, February 18, 2008 at 16:42:45     74.69.249.233
This vendor has another cover with similar postmark but I will not pay $2.50 to mail one cover so I don't bid.
Dan Goodwin Monday, February 18, 2008 at 16:37:49     74.69.249.233
The first bidder was Elgin Sink.
HFowler Monday, February 18, 2008 at 16:36:39     67.174.90.205
That is a patriotic cover used for an anniversary. The cachet is by Sadworth.
Rich Hoffner Monday, February 18, 2008 at 14:53:20     68.80.47.48
Roger, I agree. I'm thinking that this information is in someway very wrong. I'm wondering if there is any relation between this GWF info and the series of cancels being worked on by myself and Phil Schreiber.
Rich Hoffner Monday, February 18, 2008 at 14:51:11     68.80.47.48
Bid on that is at 1.00 but I tried to bid 1.25 and was immediately outbid, so someone has a higher bid registered.
Dave Kent Monday, February 18, 2008 at 12:15:55     68.9.249.63
I think the Atlantic Fleet Service School covers may have been done by a collector named John Hesse (no relation to Alex). I had a bunch of covers from him. He later served at the Naval Air Station in Jacksonville, Fla.
Don Tjossem Monday, February 18, 2008 at 11:54:21     207.118.35.27
Dan,
Probably a contrived and/or commoration cover. Look at the other naval covers on this site and they appear to be from the same "cancelling" device.
Dan Goodwin Monday, February 18, 2008 at 11:43:25     74.69.249.233
Thanks Greg.
Greg Ciesielski Monday, February 18, 2008 at 9:59:0     65.184.47.158
Dan - Atlantic Fleet Service School, Virginia Beach VA. They created many covers like these. If you want to see others, copy and paste this link to see more. http://www.navalcovermuseum.org/wiki/index.php?title=OtherUS_Atlantic_Fleet_Service_School
Dan Goodwin Monday, February 18, 2008 at 9:22:20     74.69.249.233
Can someone take a look at this ebay item? Looks rather odd to me for a wartime cover. 160208978728
Roger Wentworth Monday, February 18, 2008 at 8:1:28     75.117.9.164
Wow! 160 ships!! The USPS/USN "SNAFU" potential to coordinate this task is of biblical proportions, much less pull it off. LOL!!
Rich Hoffner Monday, February 18, 2008 at 0:16:53     68.80.47.48
More from editor of Postmark Advisory: .... "My information is fragmentary so don't depend on it. This seems to have been instigated by The US Navy. I think that the USPS has hired a vendor to make all the postmark devices and to send them directly to the places where they are to be used."
Rich Hoffner Monday, February 18, 2008 at 0:15:9     68.80.47.48
I am quoting editor of Postmark Advisory Bulletin and info he supplied about next PO Bulletin. No, I am not Karnack...
Greg Ciesielski Sunday, February 17, 2008 at 20:41:45     65.184.47.158
Rich,
How are you seeing the 2-28-08 edition of the PB? The one on their website is dated 2-14-08.


Greg Ciesielski Sunday, February 17, 2008 at 20:38:44     65.184.47.158
Detlev - I am pleased that you liked my "Pirate" postmark but sadly that was a spoof to get Rich Hoffner going and it is still going. All the way to you. Sorry for any confusion.
Rich Hoffner Sunday, February 17, 2008 at 20:7:41     68.80.47.48
Detlev - there is only ONE cancel for EAGLE, the second was a joke on the part of one of our members who designed the cancel that was requested fom the New London post office. The "pirate" cancel was never submitted to the post office. I'm sorry it made it into the Log. I have a letter out to New London CT to verify their approval, as they have not responded to my request yet. The EAGLE does have a rubber stamp cachet, but there is no telling where or when they will mail covers back from. They will not be able to take the covers to any port to get the special cancels we are trying to get issued along the summer cruise route.
Rich Hoffner Sunday, February 17, 2008 at 20:3:36     68.80.47.48
Correction date reported for cancels is 2-22-08, appearing in PB of 2-28-08.
Rich Hoffner Sunday, February 17, 2008 at 20:2:43     68.80.47.48
Still no confirmation of GWF cancels reportedly sponsored by Navy for 160 ships post office. Date reported to be 2-28-08, with info appearing in Postal Bulletin of 2-28-08. If this is true, the USPS will have to grant a thirty or sixty day extention for sending covers. This new info also from editor of Postmark Advisory. Seems like an impossible task, with so litttle lead time. Even contacts with fleet postal advisors (PCC's) in homeports have no word on this at all.
Mike Kaup Sunday, February 17, 2008 at 15:34:21     98.203.206.115
BMCM Jones, Thanks for the Grouper data. Now I know she didn't make it long into the 70,s . Does anyone know where and by whom she was scrapped?

Thanks!, Mike Kaup


Mike Meister Sunday, February 17, 2008 at 14:40:25     64.12.116.137
Not sure how much interest there would be in 160 canels for the GWF. 160 cancels for 100th Anniversary of shipboard Post Offices is another story!
BMCM Jones 3933 Sunday, February 17, 2008 at 12:57:6     72.188.37.196
Mike Kaup
Gato Class Submarine: Laid down, 28 December 1940, at the Electric Boat Co., Groton, CT.; Launched, 27 October 1941; Commissioned USS Grouper (SS-214), 12 February 1942; From 5 March 1950 to 2 January 1951 Grouper underwent conversion at Mare Island Naval Shipyard to a Hunter-Killer Submarine and was redesignated (SSK-214); Reclassified Auxiliary Submarine (AGSS-214), 17 May 1958; Decommissioned and struck from the Naval Register, 2 December 1968; Final Disposition, sold for scrapping, 11 August 1970. Grouper received ten battle stars for World War II service.

Specifications: Displacement, Surfaced: 1,526 t., Submerged: 2,424 t.; Length 311' 9"; Beam 27' 3"; Draft 15' 3"; Speed, Surfaced 20.25 kts, Submerged 8.75 kts; Complement 6 Officers 54 Enlisted; Operating Depth, 300 ft; Submerged Endurance, 48 hrs at 2 kts; Patrol Endurance 75 days; Cruising Range, 11,000 miles surfaced at 10 kts; Armament, ten 21" torpedo tubes, six forward, four aft, 24 torpedoes, one 3"/50 deck gun, two .50 cal. machine guns, two .30 cal. machine guns; Propulsion, diesel electric reduction gear with four General Motors main generator engines, HP 5400, Fuel Capacity, 97,140 gals., four General Electric main motors, HP 2740, two 126-cell main storage batteries, twin propellers.


Detlev mehlis Sunday, February 17, 2008 at 8:56:58     85.178.252.8
Good to read you, Larry.
lbbrennan Sunday, February 17, 2008 at 8:46:20     216.9.250.117
It will take a bit of digging to find out about grouper for the past 40 years.
lbbrennan Sunday, February 17, 2008 at 8:39:33     216.9.250.117
Good morning john and good afternoon DETLEV
Detlev Mehlis Sunday, February 17, 2008 at 5:3:59     85.178.252.8
Good morning. Can anyone help me with the exact address for obtaining the two UPS EAGLE cancels (04/12/08)? Any idea of a cachet on board for the cruise?
Thank's.
Mike Kaup Sunday, February 17, 2008 at 0:38:16     98.203.206.115
I know someone can tell me what happened to the USS GROUPER SS214 after she was laid up in Pearl Harbor in 1986? Thanks!


Greg Ciesielski Saturday, February 16, 2008 at 22:57:39     65.184.47.158
esink, HFowler, & Dave Kent, Please send scans to me at lilski@ec.rr.com Thanks!
Dave Kent Saturday, February 16, 2008 at 21:33:27     68.9.249.63
Steve: I have a stuffer card from John N. Lawrence advertising the "six ship" covers (cost was 20 cents "coin"). I'll send it to you.
Stewart B. Milstein Saturday, February 16, 2008 at 20:4:34     12.72.118.205
bbl
Stewart B. Milstein Saturday, February 16, 2008 at 20:2:29     12.72.118.205
Hi Ed.
Rich Hoffner Saturday, February 16, 2008 at 15:33:51     68.80.47.48
See DECATUR, LAKE ERIE are mentioned below as taking part in the shoot down of our satellite. A collector in Florida reports USS RUSSELL DDG-59 is the third ship, not sure where the info came from.
HFowler Saturday, February 16, 2008 at 13:25:32     67.174.90.205
Oooops!! Forgot to add a link. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=280201502696&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT&ih=018
HFowler Saturday, February 16, 2008 at 13:23:22     67.174.90.205
I just put up on eBay a Lawrence cover from the USS Sacrament dated Feb 10, 1937.
esink Saturday, February 16, 2008 at 12:9:14     71.230.29.41
I believe I have some of those "Lawrences" which are mostly FREE franks from naval hospitals sent during or shortly after the war; one is an RPO free frank, if I remember correctly...purchased on EBAY or from dealer boxes. It will take me a while to locate them if scans are needed; let me know.
Greg Ciesielski Saturday, February 16, 2008 at 10:48:45     65.184.47.158
John Y - Early Lawrences are always welcomed! Good luck hunting for Bear.
Steve Shay Saturday, February 16, 2008 at 9:55:29     12.72.192.7
Great job Greg! Thanks for all of your help.
Dan Goodwin Saturday, February 16, 2008 at 9:20:13     74.69.24