lbbrennan Friday, June 30, 2006 at 22:03:05     38.117.188.10
Dave it's really the East river
Dave Kent Friday, June 30, 2006 at 21:11:08     72.200.160.237
Bodies? I thought that was just the Hudson River in New York.
Bill Nestor Friday, June 30, 2006 at 20:46:49     207.200.116.195
Uss Fort McHenry will vist Fort McHenry, Baltimore over the weekend. The crew is to put on demonstrations of various drills that they do on the ship. I have read nothing about tours of the ship. My bet is that there won't be any tours. Nowhere at Fort McHenry for the ship to dock. Though it is on the tip of Whetstone Point,it is still shallow water at the fort. I have walked the seawall at Fort McHenry, and you're able to see the bottom and other interestnng things like tires, tree stumps, bodies, soda bottles and such.
lbbrennan Friday, June 30, 2006 at 20:12:52     38.117.188.10
Doesn't polar star need major repairs?
Greg Ciesielski Friday, June 30, 2006 at 17:09:16     66.56.252.233
Very nice cover of the month! I hope everybody has a good and safe weekend.
john young Friday, June 30, 2006 at 16:06:27     64.12.116.5
Coast Guard News: USCGC POLAR STAR was placed in
Caretaker Status on 30 DEC 2006. This is something
new- keeping cutter ready to return to opeartional
service for possible future deployments to the Antarctic. This polar icepick is now commanded by
CWO and has caretaker crew of 34.
SteveShay Friday, June 30, 2006 at 15:09:01     65.213.44.9
The July Log was shipped today.
lbbrennan Friday, June 30, 2006 at 13:49:01     38.117.188.10
A great cover of the month and a great Member of the Month --wonderful tie in of the cover and the member.
SteveShay Friday, June 30, 2006 at 13:43:01     65.213.44.9
New Member and Cover of the Month posted today. Meet one of regulars.
lbbrennan Friday, June 30, 2006 at 13:37:02     38.117.188.10
Navy Day for Naval Cover collectors in CT.
lbbrennan Friday, June 30, 2006 at 13:36:31     38.117.188.10
Guided-missile destroyer USS Ross (DDG 71) arrives in Souda Bay, Crete, Greece, for a brief port visit June 25, 2006. Ross is on a six-month deployment as part of Standing NATO Response Force Maritime Group Two in support of Operation Active Endeavor, NATO's maritime contribution to the fight against terrorism.
John Lyding Friday, June 30, 2006 at 10:45:22     69.72.27.93
Roger - I didn't hit them all, but thus far no responses.
Rich Hoffner Friday, June 30, 2006 at 10:08:02     151.197.123.191
Packing my bags!
Dave Kent Friday, June 30, 2006 at 09:59:46     72.200.160.237
The October Regional here in Connecticut is set for Friday and Saturday, Oct. 13 and 14, at our usual place in Old Saybrook (just off I-95). That Sunday there will be a stamp show in Waterford, just west of New London.
lbbrennan Friday, June 30, 2006 at 09:02:23     38.117.188.10
Sunny and dry in NYC
Roger Wentworth Friday, June 30, 2006 at 07:35:18     71.28.45.107
I sent covers to every US Navy ship that was at Fleet Week. So far I have not gotten any back. Has anyone else gotten any back?
CC Jake Friday, June 30, 2006 at 01:12:26     71.232.34.35
Dave Kent
We don't get down to P-Town much these days, in fact think its been about four or five years since we were last down there. Best one to ask about that area of the Cape is Hugh D. as he is a lot closer.
We got a lot of different "Trash is someones Treasure" stores here on the Cape and some times do come across some old PCs with some nice DPO cancels

Thanks for the info on Dr. Locy and the cover.


Bill Nestor Thursday, June 29, 2006 at 21:18:30     64.12.116.5
Is the date for the fall cover show firmed up yet?
Bill Nestor Thursday, June 29, 2006 at 21:16:05     64.12.116.5
Yes, for a change huh
Dave Kent Thursday, June 29, 2006 at 21:14:16     72.200.160.237
Hi, Bill! Looks like a nice weekend!
Dave Kent Thursday, June 29, 2006 at 21:13:55     72.200.160.237
Jake: Dr. Locy was stationed in Philadelphia at the time of this cover, and we know he was an avid stamp collector, so I assume it is genuine. However, as you say, the year dates are hard to read and I think $15.00 is a lot for the cover. However, one man's trash.... (is there still that little antique store in Provincetown named "Treasure in Trash"?)
Bill Nestor Thursday, June 29, 2006 at 21:10:27     64.12.116.5
Hi Dave
Mike Kaup Thursday, June 29, 2006 at 19:38:53     63.24.5.207
Hello to all, nothing but sunshine and more sunshine in Seattle. Tough to take!!
CC Jake,or Dan Jacobs Thursday, June 29, 2006 at 17:56:04     71.232.34.35
Dinner time-- BBL
CC Jake,or Dan Jacobs Thursday, June 29, 2006 at 17:49:54     71.232.34.35
Hi Steve
Had already looked up the Philly Station date, if that year is 1926 it is a FDC, but like you couldn't read the date.
The OK. cancel made me wonder how good it was , as the issue date for the VF stamp is 5/26/28 almost two years later than the Philly cancel
SteveShay Thursday, June 29, 2006 at 17:36:20     65.213.44.9
CC Jake or Dan Jacobs,
This looks legit if that is the question though I don't know if July 27 is really the FDI for that envelope. A stamp catalog would show that. It looks like a "standard" Type 6 Oklahoma cancel. The PM catalog would verify if the Oklamhoma had this specific Type 6. The cover looks similar to others I have addressed to Locy, it might be one of his own or it might be one someone had sent to him. I can't read the year in either cancel but assume the Oklahoma must be a later year than the Philadelphia cancel. I've seen covers with stamps added and cancelled after the original stamp/cancel combination. Sort of an Add On stamp I guess you could call it.
CC Jake,or Dan Jacobs Thursday, June 29, 2006 at 17:00:43     71.232.34.35
Larry B.
There is a piece on the Lagarto in this week's Navy Times(7/3/06)
CC Jake,or Dan Jacobs Thursday, June 29, 2006 at 16:57:08     71.232.34.35
Can someone please check out this item on e-bay and tell me what your opinions are on it??
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220002579359&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1

lbbrennan Thursday, June 29, 2006 at 12:37:25     38.117.188.10
National TV -probably ABC- had a piece on the finding of USS lagarto and had a short of the daughter of one of the crew with a letter from the father she couldn't remember and the anchor closed with "the survivors now have more than their letters"
lbbrennan Thursday, June 29, 2006 at 12:31:49     38.117.188.10
Sunny humid day in NYC
Roger Wentworth Thursday, June 29, 2006 at 08:31:56     71.28.45.107
Dave Kent,
Have you tried mushroom tea?LOL!
Dan Goodwin Thursday, June 29, 2006 at 07:59:45     24.198.56.162
Roger - We already have. We put it in bottles and sell it as "spring water"....Poland Spring, that is.
Roger Wentworth Thursday, June 29, 2006 at 07:38:34     71.28.45.107
With all that Yankee ingenuity, one of you guys ought to be able to figure out a way to sell all that rain. LOL!
bmcm Richard Jones 3933 Thursday, June 29, 2006 at 00:38:00     70.119.230.141
The U.S. Navy awarded a Lockheed Martin -led team nearly $198 million for construction of the Navy's third Littoral Combat Ship (LCS). This is the second LCS awarded to the Lockheed Martin team.
The Lockheed Martin team will begin construction in the first quarter of 2007 at Bollinger Shipyards in Lockport, LA. The ship will be delivered to the U.S. Navy in 2009.
John Lyding Wednesday, June 28, 2006 at 23:12:44     69.72.26.203
Rich & Roger - Thanks for the info/updates. The rain has finally stopped here. Went to my first meeting of the Baltimore Philatelic Society in seven months tonight. Pleasant suprises two ladies present (one a member) and the clubhouse is being rehabititated,

Bill Nestor Wednesday, June 28, 2006 at 21:33:23     152.163.100.5
Hello Dave
Bill Nestor Wednesday, June 28, 2006 at 20:12:46     152.163.100.5
Jake, just missed you. A belated hi!
CC Jake Wednesday, June 28, 2006 at 18:48:51     71.232.34.35
Hi Rich
CC Jake Wednesday, June 28, 2006 at 18:47:57     71.232.34.35

Ed just reading an article from a copy of the 1984 Boston Herald about the Kitty Hawk hitting a Russky sub, same article had a piece on the USS Fife when she bumped the Russky Frigate Razyaschiy in the Arabian Sea. My son was serving aboard the Fife when this happened, he even manged to get photos of it
Ed Wednesday, June 28, 2006 at 18:47:05     12.76.174.87
Kearsage arrived in Boston today with Laboon due in Friday.
Ed Wednesday, June 28, 2006 at 18:46:34     12.76.174.87
Don't get used to it Jake. More rain tomorrow into Friday.
CC Jake Wednesday, June 28, 2006 at 18:42:25     71.232.34.35
Hi Ed & Dave
Kind of nice to see the sun for a very short time today
CC Jake Wednesday, June 28, 2006 at 18:30:27     71.232.34.35
Hi Bill
Roger Wentworth Wednesday, June 28, 2006 at 18:03:32     71.28.45.107
Got my USS FARRAGUT FDC covers back over a week ago. I sent them to the same address that Rich posted below. I sent for my USS FLORIDA "return to service" cancels to the same addres.
Rich Hoffner Wednesday, June 28, 2006 at 16:51:04     151.197.123.191
Much rain here in the Delaware Valley. This AM, the interchange closest to me on the PA turnpike was under water, Ft. Washington, PA where it intersects with PA Route 309 expressway. Funny (though not for the stranded motorists) is that the state has the intersection under reconstruction to avoid this exact situation which has plagued this intersection and interchange for years. The job is about 75% complete. Wonder how many engineers are having a pow wow over it. Sure doesen't seem they have accomplished very much. Then again, you can't fool mother nature.
Rich Hoffner Wednesday, June 28, 2006 at 12:49:05     151.197.123.191
Also got USNS MERCY cancel, with computer generated OSC on it. Might be first day use of postmark for the deployment. No other marking on the cover.
Rich Hoffner Wednesday, June 28, 2006 at 12:47:16     151.197.123.191
Again for John L. My covers for FARRAGUT pictorial at Jacksonville arrived today. Cancels were so so. BUT, in what I think is a SNAFU, a batch of covers sent for a reported 5-23-06 pictorial for USS FLORIDA came back with the FARRAGUT cancel also. Did anyone get the USS FLORIDA cancel, and if so, what was the address for it and the zip code in the cancel? Thanks.
RIch Hoffner Wednesday, June 28, 2006 at 10:44:11     151.197.123.191
John L. THis might be what you are looking for:
Post Office - Jacksonville Gen Mail Facilty
1100 Kings RD
Jacksonville, FL 32203-9998
Phone: (904)366-4856
RIch Hoffner Wednesday, June 28, 2006 at 10:27:56     151.197.123.191
Dave, thanks for the copy of the logo. The one I first laid my hands on has too much clutter in the ships wheel and in the anchor, and the "battlecruiserdestroyer" thingey, also is not clean. By "thingy" I mean the ship in the logo, certainly someone took artistic license with it.
RIch Hoffner Wednesday, June 28, 2006 at 10:24:20     151.197.123.191
Dave: OK - it just takes a little crinkling to each page, sort of like haveing two rolls in the waiting line? They always say two is better then one!
RIch Hoffner Wednesday, June 28, 2006 at 10:22:10     151.197.123.191
Rich Jones: NLUS has been sending out press releases of a pending ship visit, minus the ship name. I would have submitted a cancel to the Philadelphia post office had the ships name been released. Seems ships coming to Philadelphia are reluctant to have any pre-publicity for security reasons. If memory serves me right, it's 90 to 100 miles from the mouth of the Delaware Bay to get to Philadelphia. That trip certainly is a security risk.
Dave Kent Wednesday, June 28, 2006 at 10:13:25     72.200.160.237
Rich: Thanks, but they sent me the same thing.
"Clean, clear, crisp, black..." is on its way to you. From the membership application blank back when I was secretary-treasurer back in 1977. It includes the slogan, which many versions of the logo do not.
RIch Hoffner Wednesday, June 28, 2006 at 10:11:45     151.197.123.191
Hi Dave. I just mailed you some boring reading material. It's a USPS publication which gives sneak previews of the next postal rate increases. Keep it near your john!
RIch Hoffner Wednesday, June 28, 2006 at 10:10:09     151.197.123.191
Duane, Thanks for the two covers you sent, MACKINAW and USCS convention cover. Both very well done. One suggestion, place the sleeves in the other direction, they will "go with the flow" through the canceling machines smoother. Also, I don't think stamps are necessary on the sleeves. I have seen other sleeves make the trip without the extra postage on the sleeve.
RIch Hoffner Wednesday, June 28, 2006 at 10:05:58     151.197.123.191
Postmaster
John L: I used the below address to submit my FARRAGUT covers. They are not back yet.

USPS
Attn: Customer Services
Jacksonville, FL 32203-9998


RIch Hoffner Wednesday, June 28, 2006 at 09:54:09     151.197.123.191
Should ahve read "clean, clear, crisp, black..."
RIch Hoffner Wednesday, June 28, 2006 at 09:52:09     151.197.123.191
Need assistance: At the convention I was asked by the Prez to get prices for members to order the logo of the USCS in a rubber stamp and also the same logo with members name and return address. I have rec'd prices from the company where I get ships crests made, in Sewell, NJ. These are self inkers. But, first I need a clean, clean, crisp, black copy of the USCS logo. The one I used to get prices, is from recent USCS stationary, and it is not perfect. If anyone on the chat page has some old printed matter from the USCS with a good copy of the logo, I need it mailed to me. Thanks, Rich Hoffner, 18 Ryers Ave., Cheltenham, PA 19012
John Lyding Wednesday, June 28, 2006 at 08:59:31     69.72.27.23
Is anyone else still waiting for USS Farragut covers from JACKSONVILLE? Does any one have the PO' sdirrect telephone number?
Herb Rommel Wednesday, June 28, 2006 at 08:06:27     68.0.217.179
tIME mAGAZINE FOR jULY3 HAS A TRIBUTE TO tHEODORE rOOSEVELT
Roger Wentworth Wednesday, June 28, 2006 at 07:01:37     71.28.45.107
Ed,
Thanks for the heads up.
bmcm Richard Jones 3933 Wednesday, June 28, 2006 at 00:05:45     70.119.230.141
The crew of USS Farragut (DDG 99) will celebrate the Fourth of July in Philadelphia during its maiden port visit.

After being commissioned in Mayport, Fla., the Navy’s newest, most modern Arleigh Burke-class guided-missile destroyer will be in port for a four-day visit July 1–4.


Ed Tuesday, June 27, 2006 at 18:30:10     12.76.173.48
Roger - If you are adding cachets it's the USNS Mercy not the USS.
Bill Nestor Tuesday, June 27, 2006 at 18:17:48     205.188.116.65
More rain tonight, and more flooding expected in Baltimore. 4 days of heavy rains
Roger Wentwort Tuesday, June 27, 2006 at 17:19:02     71.28.45.107
never mind...it was called "Project Hope". The covers mentioned below were cancelled on her last day in the Philippines.
Roger Wentworth Tuesday, June 27, 2006 at 17:13:57     71.28.45.107
Hi Guys,
Recieved covers back from USS MERCY today with June 19th cancels that were very nicely struck.
Does anyone know what the ops is called that they are on over there in the Orient?

Also recived covers back from USS ENTERPRISE today and USS McCAMPBELL.


John Lyding Tuesday, June 27, 2006 at 16:46:07     69.72.30.233
Duane Wilson received the covers, they are great and I only wish I could get my printer to do edge to edge printing. Thanks
Greg Jacobs Tuesday, June 27, 2006 at 14:54:53     71.235.242.255
I'm bored. Mailed all kinds of stuff today but the postman left nothing but bills!
SteveShay Tuesday, June 27, 2006 at 12:24:51     65.213.44.9
No kidding Greg, I thought the Chat Page was broken.
Greg Jacobs Tuesday, June 27, 2006 at 12:22:15     71.235.242.255
No posts today and it's past noon! Dull, dull, dull.
SteveShay Monday, June 26, 2006 at 21:12:41     4.246.87.179
Stewart, my e mails to you are getting blocked. According to the ATT website, it thinks my e mail address is highly probable to be a spam generator. That's a new one on me. Anyway, thanks for the covers.
Greg Jacobs Monday, June 26, 2006 at 18:34:29     71.235.242.255
Roger: got it. The covers will go out in the morning.
Roger Wentworth Monday, June 26, 2006 at 17:02:32     71.28.45.107
Greg Jacobs,
Sent you my address via email. Thanks for thinking about me.
Roger Wentworth Monday, June 26, 2006 at 16:45:26     71.28.45.107
Lots of rain here in the North Georgia Mountains as well. But, we too need it. We have been in a drought for several years here and some of our lakes are drying up. Lots of house boats sitting in the mud!
SteveShay Monday, June 26, 2006 at 11:56:14     65.213.44.9
Dave, the average ANNUAL rainfall for my area is 15 inches. I can't relate to 10 inches over a weekend.
Dave Kent Monday, June 26, 2006 at 11:04:28     72.200.160.237
We had ten inches of rain over the weekend. My garden needed watering, but this is a bit much.
SteveShay Monday, June 26, 2006 at 10:29:32     65.213.44.9
I heard about the rain on the news John. That's a lot of water. I hope everything is okay.
John Lyding Monday, June 26, 2006 at 10:22:46     69.72.27.93
We had 5 inches of rain last night and the Washington Beltway was closed in both directions near the Woodrow Wilson Bridge for 12 hours. Rout 29 in Maryland is still closed due to flooding. Send in the Lifeboats.
SteveShay Monday, June 26, 2006 at 09:37:53     65.213.44.9
I noticed a USS Isla de Cuba 1902 cover, (corner card only,) went for $475 on eBay.
SteveShay Monday, June 26, 2006 at 09:35:24     65.213.44.9
The Wahoo went for $240.
Dave Kent Monday, June 26, 2006 at 09:02:20     72.200.160.237
OK, how low did it go?
SteveShay Monday, June 26, 2006 at 08:34:53     65.213.44.9
Mike, yes, I know who got the Wahoo. We were at the auction together. I didn't bid against him though I wanted the cover, he didn't bid against me on a lot I wanted. I was surprised it went as low as it did.
Mike Kaup Monday, June 26, 2006 at 01:16:48     63.24.70.123
Steve Shay,
Did you pickup thr Wahoo cover at Auction? If not do you know who did? I thought it went cheap even with the added commission.


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Mike Kaup Monday, June 26, 2006 at 00:59:05     63.24.70.123
Don,
I gave up on saltwater swimming this far north. In my younger days I did take a dip in the Beaufort Sea. That's how I came to realize I should stay out of saltwater north of So. California!
Don Tjossem Sunday, June 25, 2006 at 22:48:51     207.118.4.10
Mike,
Just went for a quick dip in the sound. It is still pretty cold!
Mike Kaup Sunday, June 25, 2006 at 21:45:27     63.24.11.152
I just came in from a swim. The water is just right and there is a big fat bass under my dock.
Greg Jacobs Sunday, June 25, 2006 at 20:35:49     71.235.242.255
I looked out the window a while ago and three squirrels were building a raft.
Bill Nestor Sunday, June 25, 2006 at 20:18:24     152.163.100.5
I can not only not believe all the rain, but I can not believe the intensity of it all. It is coming down in torrents, all afternoon saturday, and on and off today.
Ed Sunday, June 25, 2006 at 19:26:52     12.76.172.178
Dave Kent - May and June, and June is not even over yet, have exceeded the highest two month rainfall amount in Boston since 1872.
Greg Jacobs Sunday, June 25, 2006 at 17:49:10     71.235.242.255
I received a Logitech MX1000 cordless laser mouse for father's day. I was skeptical about replacing my Microsoft optical mouse but now I wouldn't go back for anything. The laser mouse is much more precise. Turns itself off when left alone for about 15 seconds but responds immediately when moved. So far the charge has lasted three days. It has rechargable batteries and the R/f receiver doubles as a charging stand.
SteveShay Sunday, June 25, 2006 at 16:53:00     4.246.87.193
Thanks John. I hadn't bothered to check DANFS, it's nice to know my memory still has some good information tucked away in it. It's a pretty sad story (Pecos and Langley) and shows how inept and ill prepared the US was at the beginning of the war. If I remember right, a submarine scare sent the Whipple out of the area while survivors were still in the water.
Greg Jacobs Sunday, June 25, 2006 at 16:36:07     71.235.242.255
Greg C: Thanks for thinking of me but I already have a couple with that date/cachet.
Greg Jacobs Sunday, June 25, 2006 at 16:34:25     71.235.242.255
Roger: thanks. What is your mailing address these days? I picked up a few 1930s uncachted covers that mean nothing to me. Their yours if you want them.
Greg Ciesielski Sunday, June 25, 2006 at 15:06:26     66.56.252.233
Ahoy John!
Greg Ciesielski Sunday, June 25, 2006 at 15:06:05     66.56.252.233
Greg Jacobs - Check out ebay #230001645954 for a nice Northampton Cover for Lincoln's birthday.
john young Sunday, June 25, 2006 at 14:57:36     64.12.116.5
Steve Shay: Accrding to information in DANFS-
LANGLEY was sunk by American gunfire, following picking up of survivors by WHIPPLE (308) & EDSALL
(177). They were tranferred to PECOS on 1 MAR 42-
the EDSALL was lost & then PECOS bombed- sunk with
WHIPPLE picking up survivors (231).
If oiler had 100+ crew-members then only 1/3 (LANGLEY & PECOS) crew were taken to Australia by WHIPPLE (3/23/42)
Dave Kent Sunday, June 25, 2006 at 14:49:27     72.200.160.237
More than 8 inches of rain so far this weekend and it's still pouring. Send in the lifeboats!
Roger Wentworth Sunday, June 25, 2006 at 08:18:19     71.31.58.16
Good For You Greg!!!
Greg Jacobs Saturday, June 24, 2006 at 22:36:27     71.235.242.255
Picked up 11 good Northampton covers on eBay.
Roger Wentworth Saturday, June 24, 2006 at 18:37:16     71.31.58.16
Does any on have a mailing address for Phil Edwards, aka, "The Cover Monster"?
lbbrennan Saturday, June 24, 2006 at 16:18:07     38.117.188.10
Got and humid in san Juan overcast
Mike Kaup Saturday, June 24, 2006 at 12:34:10     63.24.16.249
Richard, don't you mean the USS HONOCISCO?
Mike Kaup Saturday, June 24, 2006 at 12:32:08     63.24.16.249
Does anyone have sailors mail from the UC-97 during her tenure with the USN in Chicago?
bmcm Richard Jones 3933 Saturday, June 24, 2006 at 10:23:20     70.119.229.178
USS SAN FRANLULU ?

USS Honolulu, currently on its final deployment, will provide the bow for USS San Francisco, according to Pat Dolan, spokeswoman for Naval Sea Systems Command in Washington, D.C. Both are Los Angeles-class submarines.
The San Francisco arrived in Bremerton Sept. 9, 2005 to await permanent repairs. Scheduled to begin in November and be completed in September 2008.


Dave Kent Saturday, June 24, 2006 at 09:47:09     72.200.160.237
There are mushrooms growing in the flower boxes on my "sun" deck.
Roger Wentworth Saturday, June 24, 2006 at 08:17:38     71.31.58.16
Boy! Yesterday was my day for the return of submarine covers. I got back six batches of covers back from various SSNs and two from SSBN's. Some of these covers have been out there over a year!! I had given up on a few of these ever returning.
Dan Goodwin Saturday, June 24, 2006 at 07:50:34     24.198.56.162
More rain this weekend in the Northeast! What doesn't get moldy will rust.
Mike Kaup Saturday, June 24, 2006 at 01:09:11     63.24.70.20
Don, I live in Seatac so I think I will be safe. I am stocking up on salt pills just in case the weather gets out of hand.
Don Tjossem Saturday, June 24, 2006 at 00:48:49     207.118.4.10
Record high temperatures are pedicted for downtown Longbranch, WA this week-end. Probably 80 degrees ++
Stewart B. Milstein Friday, June 23, 2006 at 23:12:10     12.75.162.32
Ed - issues are: 1. parking and 2. the Manhattan Piers are not long enough. Some of the newer cruise ships hsave the sterns sticking out into the Hudson River beyond the end of the pier.
Stewart B. Milstein Friday, June 23, 2006 at 23:10:43     12.75.162.32
Hi Mike.
Mike Kaup Friday, June 23, 2006 at 21:04:02     63.24.70.20
Hi Eveybody!
CC Jake,or Dan Jacobs Friday, June 23, 2006 at 20:59:31     71.232.34.35
Phone BBL
CC Jake,or Dan Jacobs Friday, June 23, 2006 at 20:57:07     71.232.34.35
Hi Ed
You ready for a wet week end???
bmcm Richard Jones 3933 Friday, June 23, 2006 at 19:21:09     70.119.229.178
USS ALASKA held a change of command and crew merging. With the merging of the blue and gold crews, the ship’s company is now making preparations for a voyage through the Panama Canal to Norfolk. After the overhaul completion, the Alaska and its crew will make its way to Georgia and SUBGROUP10.

“We will be in Norfolk for at least two and a half years” said Fahs. “After that, we will be in Kings Bay, Ga. for however long strategic requirements need Alaska there.”


Ed Friday, June 23, 2006 at 19:07:15     12.76.172.156
Actually, no, I wasn't in position to do it but I have in the past. In fact I have been aboard for three of those cruises.


Why Brooklyn? Is the Manhattan cruise ship terminal too busy now?


Stewart B. Milstein Friday, June 23, 2006 at 18:56:46     12.75.162.193
I hopr you took some pictures of the turn around. Port of NY has a new cruise ship which docks in Bklyn (Crown Princess). She shares the docking space with the QUEEN MARY II. Been a lot of container ships in and out from the Port Newark area.
Ed Friday, June 23, 2006 at 18:54:27     12.76.172.156
Hello, Stew
Ed Friday, June 23, 2006 at 18:54:06     12.76.172.156
Constitution made one of her turnaround cruises today, passing by 6 USN YP's, 2 Japanese Navy Ships, a Spanish Navy sail training ship, and a British Navy Replenishment ship all in port at this time.
Stewart B. Milstein Friday, June 23, 2006 at 18:53:40     12.75.162.193
Hi Ed.
Ed Friday, June 23, 2006 at 18:51:07     12.76.172.156
Thanks Steve. I knew the survivors went down a second time and didn't survive.
Stewart B. Milstein Friday, June 23, 2006 at 18:51:05     12.75.162.193
Hi Dave - how are you doing?
Roger Wentworth Friday, June 23, 2006 at 17:09:30     71.31.58.16
Hi Guys,
Got my USNS SACAGAEWA Christening covers back from San Diego today....a day early. Very nicely struck pictorial cancels.
Greg Ciesielski Friday, June 23, 2006 at 14:03:39     66.56.252.233
Bruce Liddell - We might be crazy southerners but at least we don't have snow! 3H in eastern North Carolina too. Good day to stay in the A/C and work in the Naval Cover Museum.
Dan Goodwin Friday, June 23, 2006 at 10:01:40     24.198.56.162
It's raining again in the Northeast!
SteveShay Friday, June 23, 2006 at 09:02:52     65.213.44.9
It's hot in the Bay Area too, plus or minus 100, depending on where you are. I detect a common theme of hot weather here. California, New York and Alabama.
SteveShay Friday, June 23, 2006 at 09:01:48     65.213.44.9
Ed, I think most of the Langley survivors transferred from the DD's (Whipple and Edsal, I think) to the oiler Pecos. Then the Pecos was lost and many of the Langley survivors were lost at that point.
Roger Wentworth Friday, June 23, 2006 at 08:58:39     71.31.58.16
Hello Steve
Roger Wentworth Friday, June 23, 2006 at 08:58:05     71.31.58.16
My friend, Robert Karrer,President of the Isthmian Collectors Club, has a cover with Harry Moore's photograph pasted on it, showing him in his little tiny mail room onboard the USF CONSTITUTION, with Canal Zone in the killer bars. The cover was formally in my collection, but Bob taked me out of it a few years ago. The cover's photograph is illustrated in the book that Bob and I co-authored on the covers the USF CONSTITUTION generated while in the Canal Zone...published by the USCS in 1991. The book won the Cardinal Spellman Silver Medal for Philatelic Literature in 1991 as well. Entitled: "The USF Constitution- Cachets and Cancellations for the 1932 and 1934 Transits of the Panama Canal". I think you can still get copies of this book from the USCS.
Roger Wentworth Friday, June 23, 2006 at 08:27:48     71.31.58.16
Rich Hoffner,
Your dates are correct and they are all at Groton. USS Hawaii Christening there as well this month, so I am told.
Roger Wentworth Friday, June 23, 2006 at 08:24:46     71.31.58.16
Thad,
In your case, I fully understand! LOL!
john young Friday, June 23, 2006 at 05:41:20     205.188.116.65
Thanks, Boats.
sTEWART b. mILSTEIN Thursday, June 22, 2006 at 21:01:12     12.75.161.199
Been working on too many things today - but it is 3 H weather - hazy, hot and humid - good to have several indoor interets.
sTEWART b. mILSTEIN Thursday, June 22, 2006 at 20:57:32     12.75.161.199
Good evening, gentlemen.
bmcm Richard Jones 3933 Thursday, June 22, 2006 at 20:43:47     70.119.239.141
http://www.brudirect.com/DailyInfo/News/Archive/May06/260506/nite12.htm
Brunei Joins Security Exercise At Sea
By Sonia K and Azaraimy HH
Bandar Seri Begawan - Rear Admiral William R Burke Commander, Logistics Group, Western Pacific Commander, Task Force 73 made a courtesy call to Commander of the Royal Brunei Navy Lt Col (L) Joharie bin Hj Metussin at the Royal Brunei Navy, Muara yesterday afternoon.
Rear Admiral Burke was in the country for a day's visit to the Royal Brunei Navy.
The US Navy routinely conducts exercises with navies in the region to build and enhance proficiencies ina variety of mutually beneficial skill areas.
The fifth annual South East Asian Cooperation Against Terrorism (Seacat) maritime security exercise got underway on May 20 with the departure of US Navy task from Okinawa, Japan.
Seacat is a week-long at-sea exercise designed to highlight the value of information sharing and multinational coordination within a scenario that gives participating navies practical maritime interdiction training opportunities.
The Seacat model was designed to contribute to regional coordination efforts that support cooperative responses to terrorism and transnational crimes at sea. The US Navy task group comprises of Frigate USS Crommelin, Destroyer USS Hopper, the Cutter USCGC Sherman, and Rescue and Salvage ship USS Salvor.
With liaison officers from the Royal Brunei Navy, Singapore, Thailand, Indonesia and the Philippines on board USS Tortuga, the task group's command ship serves as an information fusion centre, as well as a simulated rogue merchant vessel while transiting to the South China Sea.

bmcm Richard Jones 3933 Thursday, June 22, 2006 at 20:37:28     70.119.239.141
Big John
Singapore
Comlog Westpac (Navy)

PSC 470

FPO AP 96534


bmcm Richard Jones 3933 Thursday, June 22, 2006 at 20:32:50     70.119.239.141
Fort McHenry has one more stop before arriving at Little Creek after coming back CONUS from Japan. The ship is scheduled to leave Mayport on June 26 and sail to Baltimore, where it’ll take part in that city’s July 4th celebration,
Mike Meister Thursday, June 22, 2006 at 20:17:00     152.163.100.5
received nicely don free franks today from Momsen DDG 92 dated 6/1 and covers with a nice clear cancel and a large cachet from Fleet Activities Yokosuka, Japan.
Mike Kaup Thursday, June 22, 2006 at 19:24:19     63.24.29.128
Bruce, Southerners ARE crazier than you actually are.
Ed Thursday, June 22, 2006 at 18:44:19     12.76.172.19
Dave Kent - But didn't most of the Langley survivors then go down with the DD that rescued them?
Bruce D. Liddell Thursday, June 22, 2006 at 18:41:17     4.152.21.23
In the tradition (or is it a private joke?) of Chat Room weather news, I wish to report that Birmingham Alabama is hazy, little wind, and 105F/40C.

By all logic and reason we Southerners should be EVEN CRAZIER than we actually are.

Bruce D. Liddell


john young Thursday, June 22, 2006 at 17:35:12     152.163.100.5
Paul Helman: Checked FDPS cover, posted aboard USS LOUISVILLE on 1 MAY 1931. Cover appears to be
hand make envelope with printed (blue) photo of cruiser. 2LK/ COMMISSIONED JAN 15, 1931/ NAVY YARD
PUGET SOUND, WASH & typed (red) FIRST DAY POSTAL SEVRICE- Cover addressed to C.W. Morris, P.O. Box 353, San Francisco, Calif. Believe Mr. Morris was
stamp dealer & member NBSC.

Thaddeus W. Kaczkowski Thursday, June 22, 2006 at 15:30:25     205.188.116.65
Now you know why I only sign on with "Thad".
John Lyding Thursday, June 22, 2006 at 12:57:53     69.72.26.201
Rich Hoffner:
Sorry that I missed you at the convention, but with my wife needing help a lot I had to leave early. Do all of these anniversaries have pictorials at Groton? 6/29 15th Ann ALEXANDRIA SSN 757 7/13 15TH KENTUCKY SSBN 737 7/13 10th WYOMING SSBN 742 7/18 25th DALLAS SSN 700 Thanks for your help John
john young Thursday, June 22, 2006 at 11:22:50     205.188.116.65
need local of APO AP 96534
Dave Kent Thursday, June 22, 2006 at 11:07:06     72.200.160.237
John: we've been unable to prove that Harry Moore went down with LANGLEY. Only about 16 crew members were lost with her, so it seems unlikely. I now believe3 the article you saw in the Navigator was just a list of ANCS members who were aboard ships that were lost, with no proof that they died in the sinking.
Don Tjossem Thursday, June 22, 2006 at 11:06:46     207.118.9.45
Hi Karl!
john young Thursday, June 22, 2006 at 08:16:05     68.193.179.64
Coast Guard Covers: Mail pick-up yesterday was
filled with several LDC/FDC covers with pictorial
cancel.
Thanks for Duane Wilson for computer cover that
depicts both cutters & Bob Quintero for great set
(2) that depcts "Big Mac" and her replacement.
Got back covers from old "Big Mac" with OSC
(front) and c/c on reverse & covers from USCGC
SHERMAN (WHEC 270), posted 05 JUN 2006 at FPO AP 96534 (????)
Dave Kent: Got copies of Navigator- intersting
reading- wish to confirm if old CONSTITUTION NMC Harry Moore went down on USS LANGLEY (AV 1)

Mike Kaup Wednesday, June 21, 2006 at 22:53:25     63.24.30.12
Howdy Greg!
Greg Ciesielski Wednesday, June 21, 2006 at 22:17:26     66.56.252.233
Hi Mike!
Greg Ciesielski Wednesday, June 21, 2006 at 22:16:55     66.56.252.233
When it comes to the name game, I double click the name box and my name appears. No typing, no problem! (I do pay my computer gremlins good though) Have a good day!
Bruce D. Liddell Wednesday, June 21, 2006 at 21:30:07     66.217.115.143
Greg Jacobs -
Sounds like you solved the mystery of the missing cruisers. Outstanding!
Bruce D. Liddell

bmcm Richard Jones 3933 Wednesday, June 21, 2006 at 20:10:29     70.119.224.139
General Dynamics NASSCO, San Diego, has delivered the USNS Lewis and Clark (T-AKE 1) to the U.S. Navy.

USNS Lewis and Clark is the first of an expected class of 11 dry cargo-ammunition ships.

With modular cargo holding and handling systems, the Lewis and Clark can replenish combat ships at sea with ammunition, food or fuel in one mission and then be quickly reconfigured for an alternate mission, such as a humanitarian sealift of supplies.


Stewart B. Milstein Wednesday, June 21, 2006 at 19:13:40     12.75.162.92
2 interesting article in the current issue oif NAVAL HISTORY about Oper. Crossroads.
Ed Wednesday, June 21, 2006 at 18:55:37     12.76.173.145
ss pelkey - That ship is the Juan Sebastian de Elcano a Spanish Navy training ship. Keep your eyes pealed as there is a Britsh Navy ship at Black Falcon terminal, six USN YP's at the CG Base, and two Japanese Navy ships arriving Friday.
Ed Wednesday, June 21, 2006 at 18:52:37     12.76.173.145
Greg - I agree. There hasn't been any rules as yet regarding names so why leave? Even if the time comes when a rule is put into effect how can anyone enforce it?
SteveShay Wednesday, June 21, 2006 at 18:43:40     65.213.44.9
Bill, I used to monitor the Guestbook. It really just duplicated this chat page. People left some comments worth seeing, others not so nice and inappropriate. Others left messages asking for information and asking questions that members could answer. However most questions weren't answered because nobody looked at the guestbook. So I started regularly viewing and addressing it and personally, it just became too redundant. People can use our Chat Page for the same purpose and so many people use this that questions get answered almost immediately in many cases. It's much more visible. Long story short, those are the reasons we eliminated the guestbook.
Roger Wentworth Wednesday, June 21, 2006 at 17:37:27     71.28.47.69
Greg Jacobs,
Why bale out now Greg...no one has said we have to use our full names yet. Besides,it is just a courtesy so that we all know who we are talking to. I don't see Larry, Jake, or Elgin using their full names, and I doubt that they will quit the chat room if they have to. Much fuss over a very tiny issue,in my opinion.
Bill Nestor Wednesday, June 21, 2006 at 16:39:29     205.188.116.65
Hi Mike
Bill Nestor Wednesday, June 21, 2006 at 16:39:11     205.188.116.65
Full names are fine by me. I would like to see the guestbook reintroduced to the site.May attract some new members via a "drop by" method
Dan Goodwin Wednesday, June 21, 2006 at 16:16:33     24.198.56.162
I was going to stay out of this but now I must weigh in. I used to use just my first name on the chat until Herb Rommel asked us to use full names so he could better know who was posting. I didn't have a problem with it then and I don't have a problem with it now. In fact, I can't see why anyone would have a problem posting their full name unless they have something to hide or are too lazy to type.
Greg Jacobs Wednesday, June 21, 2006 at 12:58:50     71.235.242.255
I've always used my full name when coming to this message board but I resent being told I HAVE to do it. So this probably will be my last post.
Greg Jacobs Wednesday, June 21, 2006 at 12:57:39     71.235.242.255
I received this email from Bill Ruggerio in response to my request for information as to why there appear to be few covers from the Northampton CA-26 after 1938. Bill's father was in the crew. I've asked Bill if he's in the USCS and invited him to visit the site. His email:

"Many collectors search for Northampton covers and postage stationary. I always find them at stamp shows. I believe the reason you have trouble finding CA 26 between 1937 to 41 is that the ship went into modernization on dry dock for many months in California, I think it was for 18 months and the crew was furloughed, but many remained to work on the new paint job. Armament was improved and increased along with the latest technologies and that was secret business. What went out as mail was probably censored for that time. Remember it was built during peacetime, and had to adhere, or at least follow the guidelines of the peace accord of WW1. The oncoming WW 2 changed all that when things began to boil up in 1940."


Paul A. Helman Wednesday, June 21, 2006 at 11:47:30     68.166.188.93
Larry,
Greetings from Sacramento, will be over 100 today in the great California Central Valley. Probably hot everwhere.
Paul

lbbrennan Wednesday, June 21, 2006 at 11:36:24     38.117.188.10
Paul, Good morning.Larry
Roger Wentworth Wednesday, June 21, 2006 at 09:02:14     71.28.47.69
Hello Dave and Larry
lbbrennan Wednesday, June 21, 2006 at 08:49:20     38.117.188.10
There are sw AW SS and fmf enlisted warfare designations fmf is fleet marine force usually hms
SteveShay Wednesday, June 21, 2006 at 08:30:31     65.213.44.9
Mike, my guess is that the Wahoo cover will sell for considerably more than the starting price but I could be very wrong. I plan to go to the auction.
john young Wednesday, June 21, 2006 at 06:46:14     152.163.100.5
Ed: Back home from Outer Banks- great R&R as climbed the stairs at Caape Hatteras Lighthouse.
Probably would not have climbed it last year, as
haven't had a cigar in thirteen months. Followed
a guy around that was smoking cigar in Cape May
last month. Guess he throught I was a friend of
former New Jersey governor.
Regarding Circle Line & former Coast Guard ships
Circle Line XI & XII were CGC ARGO & CGC CALYPSO
which had their superstructure cut down to pass under the smaller bridges in Harlem River (1955).
Circle Line purchased CGC PERSEUS (CL XV), CGC
NIKE (CL XVI) & CGC TRITON (CL XVII) in 1966 and
their superstructure were also altered. Saw CL XI
around lower Manhattan with new paint job, near
South Street prier.
ss pelkey Wednesday, June 21, 2006 at 06:20:21     24.128.80.187
Good morning Y'all, There is a four masted tall ship
in my backyaaaaaaaard.(Winthro-up Harbor)WOW!!!
Mike Kaup Wednesday, June 21, 2006 at 01:49:50     63.24.92.180
Larry, for a neophyte I got lucky and picked up a Gow Ng Wahoo FDC about three years ago. I got it on ebay. The seller did not describe it properly so only a few bidders. Still it wasn't dirt cheap by any means!!!
lbbrennan Tuesday, June 20, 2006 at 23:00:17     70.111.159.210
mike k, when a Wahoo cover appears there might be some interest. It took me a long time to get a launch cover, not sure if there are any FDCs around, if so they are "rare as hen's teeth".
CC Jake Tuesday, June 20, 2006 at 22:11:31     24.60.220.133
Thanks Larry B. for the info on SWO
mike kaup Tuesday, June 20, 2006 at 21:23:11     63.24.20.80
Larry, I agree that covers from the boat would be of more interest. I can also see why covers to a lost boat on it,s final patrol would command a high price. I'm not bidding on it as I would prefer to bid on one from the boat should the situation arise. A great cover though!!!
lbbrennan Tuesday, June 20, 2006 at 21:11:18     38.117.188.10
Mike it is a pricey cover plus 20% commission but who has seen actual WAHOO mail except Capt Rawlins. I think it is a cover to the boat at time of loss covers from the boat would be interesting but covers addressed to Kia and returned seem to be expensive. See my forth coming article re a cover addressed to a naval aviator during leyte gulf when he was in vb 20 in enterprise and earned the navy cross for helping sink the last ijn cv that attacked pearl. The cover bounced around but the aviator was Kia over hainin island flying from lex in jan 45
lbbrennan Tuesday, June 20, 2006 at 21:05:14     38.117.188.10
Swo = surface warfare officers who received warfare device ie water wings in early 1970s and do not include warfare quals in title. Enlisted surface warfare device. Silver cutlasses are later early or mid 1980s qualified enlisted include warfare designation in title. Swo is j p Jones LT USN while enlisted is j p Jones PCCM (AW SW) USN
Mike Kaup Tuesday, June 20, 2006 at 20:35:41     63.24.6.220
Anyone agree or disagree with the estimate for the Wahoo interrupted mail cover on the H/S auction site?
CC Jake Tuesday, June 20, 2006 at 20:02:24     24.60.220.133
LArry B.
Can you please clear up your last post on SWO?
CC Jake Tuesday, June 20, 2006 at 19:58:42     24.60.220.133
G'Evening Gentlemen
lbbrennan Tuesday, June 20, 2006 at 19:50:06     38.117.188.10
Ed if the Japanese waited 40 days they could have celebrated the 63 Ann of the sinking of the bayonne NJ built pt 109
lbbrennan Tuesday, June 20, 2006 at 19:48:16     38.117.188.10
Roger it just made little sense as did your gratitiously unpleasant response

The enlisted surface devices and the written designstors are much after the swo device


Ed Tuesday, June 20, 2006 at 18:43:40     12.76.172.123
Two Japanese ships due in Boston on Friday. One, the Amagiri, is named for the destroyer that sank the PT109.
Roger Wentworth Tuesday, June 20, 2006 at 18:01:01     71.28.47.69
Jake,
That is kind of like when I got out of bootcamp. I had two ribbons and a shoulder epaulet "given" to me for absolutely no reason. Got three ribbons while in Navy that for the life of me, I know not why. Did absolutely nothing to deserve them. I was just in the right spot at the right time, doing what I was suppose to do. Got two letters of commendations for which I did nothing except being part of the group who got them. A lot of this goes on in the armed services.
Roger Wentworth Tuesday, June 20, 2006 at 17:49:07     71.28.47.69
My fisrt encounter with the SW thing was when I sent covers to a Chief PC on the USS MIDWAY. His name was Smithers. Whenever I got covers back from him his return address always had SW in parenthesis behind his rank. This was in the late 80's.
Roger Wentworth Tuesday, June 20, 2006 at 17:41:30     71.28.47.69
Don't worry about it Larry...every thing posted here is not about you.
SteveShay Tuesday, June 20, 2006 at 17:16:31     65.213.44.9
Speaking of Lewis and Clark, I saw a nice in exhibit on Lewis, Clark and Sacagawea in the Smithsonian while at the convention. I recommend it if you are in Washington.
CC Jake Tuesday, June 20, 2006 at 17:02:14     24.60.220.133
Hi Bill & Karl
CC Jake Tuesday, June 20, 2006 at 16:38:56     24.60.220.133
Larry Brennan
Correct me if I'm wrong, but if memory serves me right back in the mid-nineties I remember reading in the NAVY TIMES there was much ado about them just giving the Enlisted SW awards to anyone who put in for it.
Do you know anything about this ??

You stole my posting on the SW/AW about being qualified to wear both pins, you see this today with a lot of the Senior POs who are real "go getters"


lbbrennan Tuesday, June 20, 2006 at 16:06:11     38.117.188.10
Roger, can you translate your last posting? To whom or what does it refer?
lbbrennan Tuesday, June 20, 2006 at 16:04:41     38.117.188.10
Navy to Christen USNS Sacagawea
The Navy will christen the USNS Sacagawea, the newest ship in the Lewis and Clark class of underway replenishment ships on Saturday, June 24, 2006, during a 7:15 p.m. PDT launching at National Steel and Shipbuilding Company, San Diego, Calif.

The name Sacagawea will honor the Lemhi Shoshone woman who acted as guide and interpreter for Lewis and Clark on their expedition into the Northwest region of the United States. This well documented expedition of two years and 6,000 miles opened routes to vast new territories throughout the American West which allowed passage for American settlers and traders.
Legendary for her perseverance and resourcefulness, Sacagawea (1788-1812) provided invaluable assistance to the explorers through her knowledge of topography and edible roots and plants previously unknown to European-Americans.

She single-handedly saved the expedition's records after they had fallen into the Missouri River when their canoe capsized. If she had not rescued these journals, much of the record of the first year of the expedition would have been lost to history. This act demonstrated her dedication to the journey's success. Two harbor tugs, YT 241 (1942) and YT 326 (1942-1945), have been named Sacagawea.

Chairman of the House Armed Services Committee, Rep. Duncan Hunter of California, will deliver the ceremony's principal address. Lucy Honena Diaz and Rachael Lynne Ariwite, familial descendants of Sacagawea, will serve as co-sponsors of the ship. The launching ceremony will be highlighted in the time-honored Navy tradition when each sponsor breaks a bottle of champagne across the bow to formally christen the ship "Sacagawea." Amy Mossett, a Mandan-Hidatsa member of the Three Affiliated Tribes of North Dakota, will serve as honorary matron of honor.

The USNS Sacagawea is the second ship in the Navy's new 11-ship
T-AKE Class. T-AKE is a combat logistics force vessel intended to replace
the current capability of the T-AE 26 Kilauea-Class ammunition ships, T-AFS 1 Mars-Class combat stores ships and, when operating with T-AO 187 Henry J.
Kaiser-Class oiler ships, the AOE 1 Sacramento-Class fast combat support ships. The USNS Sacagawea is 689 feet in length, has an overall beam of 105 feet, a navigational draft of 30 feet, and displaces approximately 42,000 tons. Powered by a single-shaft diesel-electric propulsion system, the ship can reach a speed of 20 knots.

Designed to operate independently for extended periods at sea while providing replenishment services to U.S., NATO and allied ships, the USNS Sacagawea will directly contribute to the ability of the Navy to maintain a worldwide forward presence. Ships such as the Sacagawea provide logistic lift from sources of supply either in port or at sea from specially equipped merchant ships. She will transfer cargo (ammunition, food, limited quantities of fuel, repair parts, ship store items, and expendable supplies and material) to ships and other naval warfare forces at sea.

As part of the Naval Fleet Auxiliary Force, the ship will be designated USNS. The term stands for United States Naval Ship. Unlike their United States Ship (USS) counterparts, USNS vessels are manned primarily by civilian crews working for the U.S. Navy Military Sealift Command, Washington, D.C.


Roger Wentworth Tuesday, June 20, 2006 at 15:28:26     71.28.47.69
Debating points are just that...points. They have no tangible value and you can't even buy a cup of coffee with them. They are a form of one-upsmanship and self agrandizing ego boosters in nature. Folks who rely on them to define who they are are self seeking and ego driven. Debating points are kind of like a target at a target range . Once you hit the target you have a target full of holes, and it can't be used again, except to show it to your pals and brag about how close you got to the bulls eye.
Roger Wentworth Tuesday, June 20, 2006 at 15:12:32     71.28.47.69
Bill Nestor,
There are 10's of thousands of Crosby covers out there both naval and FDOI, with hundreds of different cachets. I quit collecting Crosby covers except for a few topicals years ago because of the shere numbers. (I still collect Crosby cachets for U.S. # 856 and those with T. Roosevelt cachets in duplicate.) Some Crosby's are worth $12-50 each, but most are very plentiful and only worth about $5-$10, in my opinion. If you really want to see what a naval or FDOI Crosby is worth, try selling some to a dealer. I did, and I darn near cried. Such is the relm of wholesale vs. retail.
Not taking away anything from Crosby's work. His covers are classics and great collectibles. The cover market is just saturated with them right now, as the older collectors pass away.



BIll Nestor Tuesday, June 20, 2006 at 14:25:40     64.26.105.9
A Crosby cover just went for about $5.00 on eBay. I always thought that Crosby covers went for far more than that. Is that average for eBay? When I see them in the LOG auctions, I used to bid in the $20.00 + range, and never won, so I came to think they were going for far more than that even.
lbbrennan Tuesday, June 20, 2006 at 11:24:33     38.117.188.10
Greg sports are interesting to cover collectors and Yankees fan. Congrats and enjoy. Larry
lbbrennan Tuesday, June 20, 2006 at 08:08:47     38.117.188.10
You can now wear two warfare devices one above ribbons and the other on the pocket below the ribbons
bmcm Richard Jones 3933 Monday, June 19, 2006 at 23:56:53     70.119.224.139
The Navy takes possession Tuesday of PCU Texas - second in Virginia-class. Commissioning set for Sept 9th
bmcm Richard Jones 3933 Monday, June 19, 2006 at 23:45:27     70.119.224.139
That's okay. We had it in the DEEP South for two years!
Greg Ciesielski Monday, June 19, 2006 at 23:23:47     66.56.252.233
Whoops! Let's keep this chat room naval themed. The USS Stanley Cup is in the south!!!!
Greg Ciesielski Monday, June 19, 2006 at 23:22:25     66.56.252.233
The Stanley Cup is in the south for the next year! Y'all come back and try to take it away now.
CC Jake Monday, June 19, 2006 at 22:49:25     24.60.220.133
The Surface Warfare Badge is a military badge of the United States Navy which is issued to those Naval personnel who are trained and qualified to perform duties aboard United States surface warships. The Surface Warfare Badge was first proposed in 1972 and, by 1980, several classes of the Surface Warfare Badge had been approved for issuance. There are presently five classes of the Surface Warfare Badge, being that of Line, Supply, Staff, Special Operations, and Enlisted
CC Jake Monday, June 19, 2006 at 22:45:24     24.60.220.133
LBrennan

Aviation Warfare Specialist pin came into effect in 1980 according the Navy history site, so imgine the Surface Warfare pin was around the same time or shortly before


Greg Ciesielski Monday, June 19, 2006 at 22:31:50     66.56.252.233
And the Hurricanes might go all the way to the big silver spittoon in Raleigh tonight! Go Go Go 'Canes!!!!!
CC Jake Monday, June 19, 2006 at 22:29:48     24.60.220.133
LBrennan
Know they changed the Air Crew Wings in '58, looked that one up on the Navy History site, can probably find the dates the rest came into being there as well.
lbbrennan Monday, June 19, 2006 at 20:46:44     70.111.159.210
Roger,

I clearly have complimented your work, most recently I wrote here:

lbbrennan Saturday, June 17, 2006 at 14:28:43 70.111.159.210
Roger W. some nice add ons, particularly if they are the ship's seal or crest. I don't want to be a pest but why a fleet boat for the Scorpion memorial cancel and why water wings for a submarine event?

Read the words carefully -- you need not quibble if the cachets are add ons or not. My point about accuracy is that when you have a submarine you probably should use dolphins and when you have a surface ship you should use water wings. When you have a SSN use a SSN and when you have a SS use the proper type of SS.

I thought that these covers were markedly superior to the mermaids and to the maps that often have inaccuracies and deface the cancel. If you wish to dwell on the negatives I would have omitted the laudatory words. In any event, the style of those covers generally was superior.


lbbrennan Monday, June 19, 2006 at 20:07:09     38.117.188.10
I think swo devices existed before captain Rommel retired in 1969 bet navy history has the answer. They certainly have been around before the early 1970s.
esink Monday, June 19, 2006 at 19:53:33     71.230.243.237
Nice free-franked cacheted covers with "short bars" received today from USS OGDEN postmarked
2 JUN 06.
Roger Wentworth Monday, June 19, 2006 at 19:47:14     71.28.47.69
Thanks Richard,
Don't know if I can get any covers off in time, but I'm gonna certainly try.
Roger Wentworth Monday, June 19, 2006 at 19:45:27     71.28.47.69
Stew,
Excellent idea! I could use another quilt in my advancing years. It gets cold up hear in the North Georgia Mountains! LOL! I still have two old quits that my Mom made at the weekly "quilting bees" at the Grange when I was a child in Kansas. When the ladies of the town weren't making quilts, they made, dresses,pot holders, knitted sweaters, or sewed costumes for the school plays. Sometimes they darned socks. You can't even buy a sock darner anywhere anymore, except at antique shops. When the ladies were doing all this, the men were at the VFW hoising a few and telling lies about their WWII exploits. We kids were at the local movie theater on these nights watching Hop-a-long Cassidy/Roy Rogers or Flash Gordon/Charie Chan movies, as well as sing-a-long cartoons. Geeze, I gettin' old! LOL!
bmcm Richard Jones 3933 Monday, June 19, 2006 at 19:22:27     70.119.224.139
USS Ronald Reagan (CVN 76), USS Kitty Hawk (CV 63) and USS Abraham Lincoln (CVN 72) sail in formation at the start of Exercise Valiant Shield 2006. Valiant Shield 2006 is the largest joint exercise in recent history. Held in the Guam operating area June 19-23, the exercise includes 28 naval vessels. Nearly 300 aircraft and approximately 22,000 service members from the Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps and Coast Guard are participating in the exercise.
Stewart B. Milsteion Monday, June 19, 2006 at 19:21:16     12.75.163.34
enough silliness. I have to get stuff in order for the trip toManhattan tomorrow. T-storms are expected momentarily, I think it would be wise not to be on-line until everything settles down.
Stewart B. Milsteion Monday, June 19, 2006 at 19:20:16     12.75.163.34
a member of what? :)
bmcm Richard Jones 3933 Monday, June 19, 2006 at 19:18:02     70.119.224.139
Hi Stewart Milsteion

Would you like to become a member? :)


Stewart B. Milsteion Monday, June 19, 2006 at 19:16:22     12.75.163.34
Hi Richard - I am off to the NY Publ;ic Library tomorrow where I hope to finish my book review/article.
Stewart B. Milsteion Monday, June 19, 2006 at 19:15:02     12.75.163.34
Roger - there was a program on recently in which someone made a quilt using old ties?

I have even seen memory quilts made from the shirts, trousers, and other articles of closing associated with the deceased.


Stewart B. Milsteion Monday, June 19, 2006 at 19:12:50     12.75.163.34
Spelled my name wrong.
Stewart B. Milsteion Monday, June 19, 2006 at 19:10:39     12.75.163.34
Good evening, gentlemen.
Roger Wentworth Monday, June 19, 2006 at 18:41:03     71.28.47.69
Jake,
I never saw any one wearing one of those SW pins when I was in the Navy either Jake.I may be wrong, but I don't think they existed in the 60's when I was serving on carriers. If they did, I never saw one. I did see the pilots and squadron officers wearing wings.
CC Jake Monday, June 19, 2006 at 17:18:09     24.60.220.133
C-Ya All later son just came in ----BBL
Dan Goodwin Monday, June 19, 2006 at 17:17:18     24.198.56.162
Hi Jake. Hot up here!
CC Jake Monday, June 19, 2006 at 17:16:38     24.60.220.133
Hi Bill & Dan
Bill Nestor Monday, June 19, 2006 at 17:11:34     64.12.116.5
Hi Jake
CC Jake Monday, June 19, 2006 at 16:58:40     24.60.220.133
Roger
Back in my day they didn't have the SW or AW pins even since I served they have changed the "Combat Air Crew Wings" for enlisted personel, they seem to be coming up with something new all the time
CC Jake Monday, June 19, 2006 at 16:49:31     24.60.220.133
G'Afternoon Roger
Roger Wentworth Monday, June 19, 2006 at 15:30:08     71.28.47.69
Sreve Shay,
Let me know when the package arrives.
Roger Wentworth Monday, June 19, 2006 at 15:28:56     71.28.47.69
Larry Brennan,
I explained how I made the "water wings" mistake to Jake below, you don't have to keep heaping it on. You made your point OK? Is there anything you find in my work that you DO like????

Steve Shay,
Thank you for the link. I'll check it out.


SteveShay Monday, June 19, 2006 at 14:11:05     65.213.44.9
Roger, here is a good web link of US Naval insignia:
http://www.chinfo.navy.mil/navpalib/ranks/officers/breast-insignia/insignia.html

It even shows the "half" Dirigible Pilot wings Larry references. As he says, there are lots of resources on the web for illustrated rank and insignia.


Bill Mitchell Monday, June 19, 2006 at 10:03:04     71.76.15.159
Dave Kent
Thanks for Jim's email. I have been working a softball tournament and just got back to computer.
lbbrennan Sunday, June 18, 2006 at 23:10:44     70.111.159.210
Roger, Whatever type of cachet the submarine ones -- add on or what you did not describe -- they are egregiously wrong. Why WWII era boats for Scorpion and the other nuke boat? There are lots of resources out there to help determine the correct insignia such as SWO "water wings", dophins, and the various aviators' wings [a single wing is a blimp pilot -- few and far between these days].
Roger Wentworth Sunday, June 18, 2006 at 20:21:30     71.28.47.69
Thanks Paul,
The only down side for me about Father's Day is that I still keep getting bad ties from my daughter. This year, I got one with Chili Peppers on it! Now I gotta wear it for dinner tonight. LOL! Ya gotta love her though!
Paul A. Helman Sunday, June 18, 2006 at 20:03:29     68.166.188.93
Hello Roger,

Did a quick search on Google re Father's day and a all the hits are about the same, here is one.

"The idea for creating a day for children to honor their fathers began in Spokane, Washington. A woman by the name of Sonora Smart Dodd thought of the idea for Father's Day while listening to a Mother's Day sermon in 1909.

Having been raised by her father, William Jackson Smart, after her mother died, Sonora wanted her father to know how special he was to her. It was her father that made all the parental sacrifices and was, in the eyes of his daughter, a courageous, selfless, and loving man. Sonora's father was born in June, so she chose to hold the first Father's Day celebration in Spokane, Washington on the 19th of June, 1910.

In 1926, a National Father's Day Committee was formed in New York City. Father's Day was recognized by a Joint Resolution of Congress in 1956. In 1972, President Richard Nixon established a permanent national observance of Father's Day to be held on the third Sunday of June. So Father's Day was born in memory and gratitude by a daughter who thought that her father and all good fathers should be honored with a special day just like we honor our mothers on Mother's Day".


Roger Wentworth Sunday, June 18, 2006 at 19:52:24     71.28.47.69
Rich Hoffner,
I just went into the Postal Bulletin and it downloaded OK this time.
Roger Wentworth Sunday, June 18, 2006 at 19:49:23     71.28.47.69
Hello Paul
Ed Sunday, June 18, 2006 at 19:32:36     12.76.172.106
John Young - Are there any photos of those cutters on the web anywhere?
Roger Wentworth Sunday, June 18, 2006 at 19:32:07     71.28.47.69
Thanks Jake
I was not really disputing what Larry commented upon, but someone in the USCS gave the idea for the Surface Warfare cachet years ago, and they mistakenly told me it was a submarine emblem. My bad for not researching the emblem. I still have his letter in my cachet file that he sent me with an ilustration of the emblem. I won't mention his name as he really did think it was submarine emblem. I went on faith that he knew what he was talking about. My mistake. LOL! Live and learn.
CC Jake Sunday, June 18, 2006 at 19:31:47     24.60.220.133
Hi DAn

BBL company just came in


Ed Sunday, June 18, 2006 at 19:31:31     12.76.172.106
CC Jake - That's because you live down in the resort area where it's nice and cool!
Ed Sunday, June 18, 2006 at 19:30:29     12.76.172.106
John Young - I did not know that the Circle Line boats were former CG. What did they do, chop of the superstructures?
BTW - I took one of their cruises a few years ago. A fantastic way to see Manhattan.
Ed Sunday, June 18, 2006 at 19:28:36     12.76.172.106
Bill Nestor - I go down to NYC every year for Fleet Week and I have never had a problem parking on the Circle Line pier. It's up to 20 bucks now but you are right next door to the Intrepid. I don't know about coming over from NJ. I have a straight run through Yonkers to the Henry Hudson Pkwy to the pier.
CC Jake Sunday, June 18, 2006 at 19:26:15     24.60.220.133
Ed
High Eighties down here, think 87 was tops for the day
Ed Sunday, June 18, 2006 at 19:25:11     12.76.172.106
CC Jake - More like 94 in the city.
CC Jake Sunday, June 18, 2006 at 19:24:20     24.60.220.133
Roger
Sorry try this link
http://www.capecodmouse.com/temp/sneeky/KelvinJacobsADC
CC Jake Sunday, June 18, 2006 at 19:14:01     24.60.220.133
Hi Ed
See it maded it up to 91 in Bean Town today, looks like summer is coming
CC Jake Sunday, June 18, 2006 at 19:03:09     24.60.220.133
Roger

If you check out this photo of our son Ret. Senior Chief, you will see the Aviation Warfare Pin above his left pocket, same idea as Surface Warfare, only its for Aviation

http://www.capecodmouse.com/temp/sneeky/Kelvin%20Jacobs%20ADCS.jpg


CC Jake Sunday, June 18, 2006 at 18:59:03     24.60.220.133
A VERY HAPPY FATHERS DAY TO ALL YOU DADS
Roger Wentworth Sunday, June 18, 2006 at 18:58:07     71.28.47.69
Stew,
I think the Lazy Boy and Craftman's Tool folks created father's day! LOL!!
CC Jake Sunday, June 18, 2006 at 18:58:06     24.60.220.133
Ahot Roger & Stewart
Stewart B. Milstein Sunday, June 18, 2006 at 18:45:28     12.75.162.14
bbl.
Stewart B. Milstein Sunday, June 18, 2006 at 18:44:45     12.75.162.14
Who created Father's Day holiday? I believe that Hallmark, Nestle's and FTD created Mother's Day.
Stewart B. Milstein Sunday, June 18, 2006 at 18:42:05     12.75.162.14
Hi Roger.
Roger Wentworth Sunday, June 18, 2006 at 18:39:57     71.28.47.69
Hello Jake and Stew.
Roger Wentworth Sunday, June 18, 2006 at 18:39:36     71.28.47.69
HAPPY FATHER'S DAY to all
Stewart B. Milstein Sunday, June 18, 2006 at 18:38:31     12.75.162.14
Hi Jake.
Paul A. Helman Sunday, June 18, 2006 at 17:06:14     68.166.188.93
Let me also say Happy Father's Day to all.

Here is an e-mail I received this AM from a non-collector who chose today to remember his Navy Veteran Father in a unique way.

Dear Sir,
I recently visited your website after trying for a very long time to locate a picture of the U.S.S
Rombach a Destroyer Escort my dad was on back in and forgive me for not knowing the dates exactly 1944-1947.Like most men in the war my dad never really talked too much about that part of his life.Anyway,after searching some U.S.Naval Archieves on different Government Websites I came up empty.They had nothing at all about the ship,not even it`s name or number appeared on any list.I got an e-mail from a government site in which a Naval Officer told me more than likely the ship had been decomissioned and srapped.No pictures.How sad is that? Well without dragging this out too much longer.A couple of years after my dad past away in 2000, my oldest sister who had no idea I was looking for this picture hands me a bag and low and behold is this full size picture of the U.S.S ROMBACH.
When I told her that I was looking for it for a long time she said that she just thought that I would probably want it.I thank God for my wonderful grandparents for saving it and for my sister as well for being closer to them to receive that among other things after they past away.Well being it`s Father`s Day, I figured I might in some way,Honor the man I miss so much by making a copy of that picture for you to put and keep in your archieves since I couldn`t find it. God Bless our men and women in our Armed Forces and keep up the great job of preserving our Naval and Maritime History.Too many of us forget too soon the sacrifices our brave men and women have made in the past and continue to make today. Thanking You In Advance
Henry L.Grau

.........
I thought you might enjoy this. I have responded to Mr. Grau with information from DANFS on the USS ROMBACH, information how to get his father's records from St. Louis and asking him for permission to post the picture at various places on the web. Any body have a cover from USS ROMBACH?

One of my most treasured pictures of my father came from his sister. It was what he called his "invasion photo". Evidently needed for an identification card he and all other soldiers had to have for the Normandy invasion.


Roger Wentworth Sunday, June 18, 2006 at 15:49:17     71.28.47.69
Larry Brennan,
The USS SCORPION cover is not an add on cachet by the way. Neither is the other cover that you mentioned.
lbbrennan Sunday, June 18, 2006 at 13:58:42     70.111.159.210
Here is a long posting regarding CNO's proposal for redesigning the fleet again. Admiral Mullen is right about the need to build ships -- get those covers ready. I'm not sure that his concept of a 1,000 ship fleet is realistic, alliances are too flexible to bet national security on the whim of the French, Turks, Dutch, Japanese, Germans or even the Brits. Alliances of the willing are just that. In any event, here is the newest blueprint for the fleet.

CNO Calls For New Maritime Strategy

NEWPORT, R.I. (NNS) -- Chief of Naval Operations (CNO) Adm. Mike Mullen called June 14 for the development of a new maritime strategy to guide the Navy through the challenges of globalization and the war on terrorism.

Hailing the Navy’s Cold War maritime strategy as necessary for its time, Mullen stressed that the world has changed greatly since the collapse of the Berlin Wall and that new challenges brought on by globalization required the Navy to adapt its thinking.

“Today’s uncertainty and today’s threats are of an entirely unique sort, caused and perpetuated by new challenges, challenges brought on...by the collapse of that wall and the unstoppable, unrelenting pace of globalization,” said Mullen. “We therefore need a new maritime strategy for this era and for this war - for our time and the incredible and growing challenges that we face.”

The CNO made his remarks at the Current Strategy Forum in Newport, R.I. Held annually at the Naval War College, the Current Strategy Forum provides a forum for the open exchange of viewpoints from both military and civilian leaders on important national issues. This year’s theme was "The Changing Nature of National Influence in the 21st Century: Implications for the Navy.”

Three major effects of globalization are driving the need for a new maritime strategy, Mullen told attendees.

"The first is the undeniable expansion of interdependent world markets and economies on a truly global scale that binds nations, corporations and peoples together," he said. "We are all connected now. We trade with our enduring allies, just as we do with nations for whom our friendship is still burgeoning."

With most governments deriving their legitimacy from economic stability and with most of the world's goods still traveling over oceanic routes, Mullen argued, navies and maritime security will remain vital.

"It is not by happenstance,” he reminded the audience, “that our vision for the Navy includes the need to keep sea lanes open and free."

The second great effect of globalization, Mullen said, is a “race for energy” that compounds and complicates the natural friction evident in market-based economies.

“I don’t mean to suggest here that a world war for oil looms on the horizon,” he said, “but we would be foolhardy not to factor into our planning the impact that energy competition and the future state of energy sources have, and will have, on our security.”

Globalization has also promoted the rapid and unfettered spread of ideology, Mullen warned, making easier than ever before the proliferation of ideas, values and cultural norms “that can - and sometimes do - promote conflict.”

“Globalization, with all its benefits, has empowered what some have called fourth-generation enemies - terrorists, proliferators of WMD and other weapons, organized criminals, smugglers, drug traffickers and pirates,” he said.

Mullen said the elements of the new maritime strategy must be founded on the belief that the United States is a maritime nation and that there are three enduring strengths of naval forces: to influence, to anticipate and flexibly respond, and to build friends and partners.

“Where the old Maritime Strategy focused on sea control, the new one must recognize that the economic tide of all nations rises, not when the seas are controlled by one, but rather when they are made safe and free for all," he said.

The CNO made it clear, however, that while "protecting trade routes is an absolutely necessary function of a naval force, it is far from sufficient."

The Navy’s continued role in humanitarian assistance, disaster relief and pre-conflict operations are equally important to enhancing maritime security and fostering economic stability, said Mullen. Those missions must be included in the new strategy, he argued.

"Markets also require stability. So we need to think critically about how naval forces support the joint, inter-agency, and international effort to intercede effectively when societies are torn asunder by the influence of radical ideologies...and destructive behavior," he noted. "And there perhaps is no greater influence than the stability we can provide when disaster strikes."

Mullen introduced the concept of Global Fleet Stations as one idea to help create such a flexible capability. The idea is to forward deploy, where invited, a small fleet of shallow-draft ships and support vessels to littoral and riverine areas where most allies and partner nations operate their navies.

“Imagine the power of having a cadre of foreign area officers that understand the language, build friendships, engender cooperation and undermine the very conditions often exploited by those who wish to fracture the peace,” he said. “Imagine a hub where all manner of Joint, Inter-Agency, International Organizations, navies, coast guards and non-governmental organizations could partner together as a force for good.”

Mullen also told the audience that the idea of a 1,000-ship navy - a fleet comprised of ships and capabilities from many law abiding nations, standing watch over the seas together - is gaining traction among the leaders of many of the world’s navies and will be a cornerstone of the new strategy.

"Where the previous Maritime Strategy was designed to defeat a single enemy - and our new one must retain the ability of the joint and coalitions forces to do that - we must also unite all freedom-loving nations to defeat a diverse array of fourth-generation threats," Mullen said. "Today, we are sailing with navies and working with agencies...in different ways than we ever would have imagined just a few years ago."

The CNO was adamant about the need to start working on the strategy right away, saying he wanted it completed over the next 12 to 18 months.

“I will not rest easy – none of us should – until we have that maritime strategy signed, sealed and delivered to the fleet.”


lbbrennan Sunday, June 18, 2006 at 13:55:06     70.111.159.210
Happy Fathers' Day to all. It is a brutal 93+ in central NJ.

The USPS is destroying stamp collecting. I went to the convention in DC and then to the Stamp show at the DC Convention Center. After working my way in I followed the signs to the USPS area to purchase the souvenir sheets on Sunday. There were dozens of USPS folks walking around the show and encouraging purchases and postmarking -- free revenue since there is no expense in moving handback philatelic mail. The line for purchase must have been nearly an hour. There were few clerks selling the stamp creating a bottleneck at the outset. McDonald's does a much better job of marketing. Today people lack the interest and patience in waiting for the mail or enduring unnecessary lines.


bmcm Richard Jones 3933 Sunday, June 18, 2006 at 13:51:07     70.119.224.139
Missed HAWAII Christening?

Go to this URL and click on Hawaii Christening for the video streaming

http://www.thesubreport.com/


Herb Rommel Sunday, June 18, 2006 at 13:21:30     68.0.217.179
The PO has ut an 800 number whee thelocal PO phone #should be. I just had a horendous experience. After a long busy singal. first you are blasted with Spanish; then there is an irrelevant privacy question, then wehn you say other there is a wait for a clerk. Then the clerk gave me the wrong postage for large global mail; she said $7.50 which I knew was wrong because it ws less thanbefore the raises. We have a good postal system but this efficiency expert got it wrong.
bmcm Richard Jones 3933 Sunday, June 18, 2006 at 13:20:26     70.119.224.139
Rich Hoffner
I,too, have had problems with the last two issues of Postal Bulletin PDF loading slowly.
Rich Hoffner Sunday, June 18, 2006 at 09:36:28     151.197.224.73
Latest date for Commissioning of USS TEXAS is now listed as 9-9-2006 at Galveston. Previously 9-16-06 was given.
Rich Hoffner Sunday, June 18, 2006 at 09:05:46     151.197.224.73
Happy Fathers Day to all fathers out there.
Rich Hoffner Sunday, June 18, 2006 at 09:04:40     151.197.224.73
Still the same problem with PB download. When I was using AOL dial up, the problem was that it was extreamly slow. Verizon DLS corrected this and the site would load in just seconds. Now, and I'm not sure why, it won't open. The only new thing in my computer is a new version of Norton anti-virus. The old version was three years old, and they did not support it anymore when I renewed. I'm wondering if Norton has some impact on the ability to open the PB?
john young Sunday, June 18, 2006 at 07:06:05     24.136.167.162
Bill Nestor- that's free ferry BUSES on the Manhattan side
john young Sunday, June 18, 2006 at 07:03:34     24.136.167.162
Bill Nestor:
Just a suggestion- If you're coming to visit midtown Manhattan, try New York Waterways Ferry in Weehawken (parking $8.00 day) & round trip is
$10.00. Use it since retiring- they provide free
bases from area from 57th Street thru 34th Street
over to Fifth. I support the ferry because of their work taking people out of the city on September 11- besides its a great ride, as you
gret to see the carrier. Only short walk north
as you pass Circle Line pier. Remember, most of the Circle Line boats are former Coast Guard vessels- 165-foot WPC built during 1930's
Bill Nestor Saturday, June 17, 2006 at 23:56:04     205.188.116.65
John Jacob: The IP address can give yuo away
lbbrennan Saturday, June 17, 2006 at 23:55:42     70.111.159.210
Bill, Thanks. Will do, starting in 7 mins. There is parking on the pier next to Intrepid, a bit expensive and could be crowded when the cruise ships are in. I drive into NYC every few years but have done it twice during the weekdays already this year. I'm going to wait for the next decade.

Roger, Further irt your query Item number: 9531720844 shows a consfusing mix of silver and gold surface warfare device on a cover commemorating submarines. For what it is worth dolphins might have been more appropriate.


Bill Nestor Saturday, June 17, 2006 at 23:52:48     205.188.116.65
Thank you for the Happy Fathers Day Larry. You too as well
!
lawrence b. brennan Saturday, June 17, 2006 at 23:50:21     70.111.159.210
Roger, Further IRT your query, Item number: 9532066998 concerns a SSN but again you have a WWII era SS.

Water wings refers to the surface warfare device worn by officers -- in gold -- and enlisted -- in silver -- above the left shirt pocket or above the ribbons with a dress uniform.

Good evening and happy father's day bill and Richard.


Bill Nestor Saturday, June 17, 2006 at 23:50:15     205.188.116.65
I know the tunnels ALWAYS have a 1/2 hour delay to go through them, acording to the radio news stations in NY
Bill Nestor Saturday, June 17, 2006 at 23:48:43     205.188.116.65
Larry what is parking like around the INTREPID? Never beent here myself, but I wouldn't mind going over once when I visit my famliy in north jersey. It's the local streets in NY, as well as parking that I am thinking of.
lbbrennan Saturday, June 17, 2006 at 23:44:50     70.111.159.210
Roger, IRT your query, your cover on ebay, Item number: 9531722484, commemorates the loss of SCORPION SSN 589, but the add on cachet is a WWII era fleet boat or earlier type conventional SS.
lbbrennan Saturday, June 17, 2006 at 23:31:33     70.111.159.210
Hope Intrepid makes a round trip. Museum ships have many problems all starting and stopping with $. NYC is expected to rebuild Pier 88. Perhpas she will return by the time of the commissioning of USS New York.
John Jacob Jingleheimer S Saturday, June 17, 2006 at 23:02:51     66.217.114.51
Greg is a blank-blank, a blank-blank-blank, and a blankety-blank-blank too! Now catch me if you can!

P.S. The 25-letter name field is too short for my full moniker, John Jacob Jingleheimer Smith.


Bruce D. Liddell Saturday, June 17, 2006 at 22:57:31     66.217.114.51
Some comments on the "Full Name" business.

(1) If I sign in as "John Jacob Jingleheimer Smith" how do you know I'm not him?

(2) If, under a fake name, I post messages using a sergeant-major's vocabulary, how do you know who did it?

(3) If you block my IP, then B-F-D. I use an antique dialup line that generates a different IP address at every login.

I don't disagree with the policy, but like Greg Jacobs I think it's unenforceable.

Bruce D. Liddell


Ed Saturday, June 17, 2006 at 21:20:37     12.76.173.189
One thing is for sure, the Intrepid certainly needs it.
Bill Nestor Saturday, June 17, 2006 at 20:34:26     152.163.100.5
Hi Dave
Bill Nestor Saturday, June 17, 2006 at 20:34:03     152.163.100.5
I thought that the INTREPID was sitting on the mud on the bottom of the berth. I didn't think they could move it, but I guess they will
Stewart B. Milstein Saturday, June 17, 2006 at 19:48:51     12.75.162.41
Unconfirmed reports in the NY Times this AM state that the USS INTREPID (the carrier museum) will be towed from Manhattan across the harbor to Bayonne for sandblasting and re-painting. Depending on the time of the day, this round trip could make for some interesting photo ops.
Ed Saturday, June 17, 2006 at 18:59:00     12.76.172.115
CC Jake - In the high 90's tomorrow. And here we just got out of monsoon season.
CC Jake,or Dan Jacobs Saturday, June 17, 2006 at 18:43:08     24.60.220.133
Roger Got the E-mail thats why the THANKS
CC Jake,or Dan Jacobs Saturday, June 17, 2006 at 18:42:06     24.60.220.133
Roger

Got to take off over to Stampoffers, had a couple of lots that sold today, so time to send out some winning bidder notices.

C-Ya Later Gator


Roger Wentworth Saturday, June 17, 2006 at 18:40:26     71.28.47.69
CCJake,
I will send you an email to answer our question.
CC Jake,or Dan Jacobs Saturday, June 17, 2006 at 18:39:58     24.60.220.133
Thanks Roger
SteveShay Saturday, June 17, 2006 at 18:34:29     4.246.87.172
I dealt myself a lousy hand Jake. Time to go mow the lawns. Catch you later.
CC Jake,or Dan Jacobs Saturday, June 17, 2006 at 18:33:11     24.60.220.133
Herb
That NAAF Hyannis cover brings back a lot of memories from my youth when we would go to the Hyannis airport and watch the TBMs coming and going.
CC Jake,or Dan Jacobs Saturday, June 17, 2006 at 18:30:17     24.60.220.133
Shuffle & Deal Steve
SteveShay Saturday, June 17, 2006 at 18:29:38     4.246.87.172
I guess we have poker game then.
CC Jake,or Dan Jacobs Saturday, June 17, 2006 at 18:27:09     24.60.220.133
One more and we 've got a poker game
CC Jake,or Dan Jacobs Saturday, June 17, 2006 at 18:23:49     24.60.220.133
G'Afternoon Herb
CC Jake,or Dan Jacobs Saturday, June 17, 2006 at 18:22:30     24.60.220.133
Ed.

Warm one down here todaay, must be real warm up there in the city


CC Jake,or Dan Jacobs Saturday, June 17, 2006 at 18:21:00     24.60.220.133
Roger
Question, is Dennis a real busy seller, seems not to be to good with communciation when receiving payments??
CC Jake,or Dan Jacobs Saturday, June 17, 2006 at 18:18:36     24.60.220.133
Hi Ed & Roger

Hope you gentlemen are having a good week end


Roger Wentworth Saturday, June 17, 2006 at 18:06:02     71.28.47.69
Larry Brennan,
I sent you an email to your questions.
Roger Wentworth Saturday, June 17, 2006 at 18:01:21     71.28.47.69
Hi Jake
CC Jake,or Dan Jacobs Saturday, June 17, 2006 at 17:58:08     24.60.220.133
Hi Elgin
Roger Wentworth Saturday, June 17, 2006 at 17:15:52     71.28.47.69
Rich Hoffner,
When you go to the postal bulletin, click on "PDF" and let it sit for five minutes, then click "philatelly" and let it sit for five minutes as well. This works for me. Apparrently the "PDF" downloads take longer than they use to and you just need to let them sit for a few minutes in order to finish. If you interup the download by scrolling while it is downloading, it will freeze the screen and sometimes the computer will have to rebooted. A computer geek friend of mine showed me this trick and it works for me. It's a little time consuming though. He tells me it is a USPS "PDF" problem, not my computer. The "HTML" does not seem to have the same problem and downloads OK....but, it does not show illustrated cancels.
lbbrennan Saturday, June 17, 2006 at 14:30:11     70.111.159.210
Sunken Sub Appears to be USS Lagarto

PEARL HARBOR, Hawaii (NNS) -- Navy divers completed six days of diving operations June 16 on wreckage in the Gulf of Thailand believed to be that of the lost World War II submarine USS Lagarto (SS 371).

Divers will send photographs and video of the submarine to the Naval Historical Center in Washington for further analysis.

The divers' observations appear to confirm the discovery made in May 2005 by British wreck diver Jamie MacLeod.

"Without a doubt, it's a U.S. submarine, a Balao-class," said U.S. 7th Fleet Diving Officer, Cmdr. Tony San Jose.

San Jose and his fellow divers reported identifying twin 5-inch gun mounts both forward and aft, a feature believed to be unique to Lagarto. They also reported finding serial numbers and the word "Manitowoc" engraved on the submarine's propeller. Lagarto was one of 28 submarines built in Manitowoc, Wisc.

The operations were conducted from the rescue and salvage ship USS Salvor (ARS 52) with embarked divers from Mobile Diving and Salvage Unit (MDSU) 1, based in Pearl Harbor, Hawaii. The Japan-based mine countermeasures ship USS Patriot (MCM 7) assisted by first pinpointing the location of the wreckage with its SQQ-32 sonar and remotely-operated Mine Neutralization Vehicle.

The mission to positively identify Lagarto was carried out as part of the Thailand phase of the exercise Cooperation Afloat Readiness and Training, or CARAT. A Royal Thai Navy liaison officer was embarked aboard Salvor to assist during the mission.

San Jose said that the diving operations were very challenging because of short bottom times, strong currents and limited visibility. Due to the depths involved, the dives had to be conducted with mixed gas.

"We are deeply grateful to the divers of MDSU 1 and USS Salvor for their efforts to confirm this discovery and bring closure to the families of Lagarto's crew," said Pacific Submarine Force commander, Rear Adm. Jeffrey Cassias.

For 60 years, crew members' families did not know the exact circumstances surrounding the 86 submariners who perished. Lagarto was last heard from May 3, 1945, as it was preparing to attack a Japanese convoy under heavy escorts. Japanese war records later revealed that the minelayer Hatsutaka reported sinking a U.S. submarine at roughly the same time and location.

Cassias met May 6 with Lagarto family members at the Wisconsin Maritime Museum in Manitowoc, where a memorial service was held to honor the lost crew. Last year, Wisconsin Gov. Jim Doyle signed a proclamation making May 3, the day the craft was presumed sunk, as USS Lagarto Remembrance Day in perpetuity.

“We owe a great debt to these men, and to all of the World War II submariners,” said Cassias. “In the world's darkest hour, they faced the greatest risks, and demonstrated the most noble courage to preserve the freedom of our nation.”

Lagarto was one of 52 submarines lost on patrol during World War II.


lbbrennan Saturday, June 17, 2006 at 14:28:43     70.111.159.210
Roger W. some nice add ons, particularly if they are the ship's seal or crest. I don't want to be a pest but why a fleet boat for the Scorpion memorial cancel and why water wings for a submarine event?
lbbrennan Saturday, June 17, 2006 at 12:59:54     38.117.188.10
Rich h we need to do another regional and a dependents' cruise
lbbrennan Saturday, June 17, 2006 at 12:56:48     38.117.188.10
The targets need to be cleaned up before a sinkex the older ships with asbestos are greater problems and thus more expensive. Remember the cost and delay in sinking ORISKANY
Rich Hoffner Saturday, June 17, 2006 at 11:35:41     151.197.224.73
I recall a trip to Norfolk many years ago, with a side trip to visit Taze Nicholson, for a dependent's cruise aboard the USS COMTE DE GRASSE, as a guest of (then USCS member) Ltjg Joe DiRenzo who was the PAO aboard. Several chapter members also went, Jim Russell, Jim Klinger and two of my sons.
Rich Hoffner Saturday, June 17, 2006 at 11:32:06     151.197.224.73
Still can't open the Postal Bulletin. I have DSL and it used to be a smooth, quick, easy process to open it. Not now, and I can't figure out why.
Rich Hoffner Saturday, June 17, 2006 at 11:30:56     151.197.224.73
All four MHC's will be transferred to the MSC on the same day.
Rich Hoffner Saturday, June 17, 2006 at 11:30:09     151.197.224.73
My covers are at Ingleside post office for the two MHC decommissionings, OSPREY and ROBIN. Info was too late for any pictorial cancels, so the four bar cancel will be on them. Same will go for ORIOLE and FALCON at the end of the month.
Rich Hoffner Saturday, June 17, 2006 at 11:24:38     151.197.224.73
Seawaves dates are only as good as the providers of the info. It seems thay never update anything, thus many bad dates there.
Rich Hoffner Saturday, June 17, 2006 at 11:15:28     151.197.224.73
It might be easier or cheaper to sink a ship, then to "clean it up" for the scrappers!
Dan Goodwin Saturday, June 17, 2006 at 10:40:34     24.198.56.162
Eat TWO lobsters! Keep Maine fishermen busy!
Herb Rommel Saturday, June 17, 2006 at 09:36:50     68.0.217.179
Confirm Larry Brennan's comment that Daughterty and Mehrer have good auctions
john young Saturday, June 17, 2006 at 08:23:27     24.136.167.162
ahoy Boats!
Looks like Coast Guard got rid of last 44-foot Motor Life Boats! Wasn't STUMP & COMTE de GRASSE destroyers (DD)
Looks like "tree-huggers" are getting their way
with decommissioned ships. We used to give them away to foreign navies, now we're making reefs.
Didn't Allied loses druing World War II make enough reefs in both Atlantic & Pacific? Eat a
lobster!
bmcm Richard Jones 3933 Saturday, June 17, 2006 at 00:26:50     70.119.224.139
The guided missile destroyers Comte de Grasse and Stump, both 28 years old and once based in Norfolk, were felled June 7, the Navy acknowledged this week.
"Sink-Ex," participating ships were the destroyers Mason, Arleigh Burke, and Ramage, and the cruiser Cape St. George, all based in Norfolk.
Plans call for another previously Norfolk-based destroyer, the Thorn, which was decommissioned in 2004 , to be sunk in a similar exercise next month.

A former ammunition ship, USS Butte, also is scheduled to be sunk by a submarine.


bmcm Richard Jones 3933 Saturday, June 17, 2006 at 00:18:06     70.119.224.139
Four MHCs are slated to be decommissioned this month, with the entire class being decommissioned by the end of fiscal year 2008.
June 30 ORIOLE (MHC-55) Decommission, Ingleside, TX
June 30 FALCON (MHC-59) Decommission, Ingleside, TX


bmcm Richard Jones 3933 Saturday, June 17, 2006 at 00:10:14     70.119.224.139
Nearly doubling the Djiboutian navy and vastly expanding its capabilities, the U.S. government on Thursday handed over four refurbished patrol boats designed to boost security in the region’s most vital waterways. A 5th boat was also given as a parts farm.

The 44-foot boats are part of the Foreign Military Financing program, through which the U.S. government equips and arms its allies. Since early 2003, with the establishment of the now 1,500-strong Combined Joint Task Force Horn of Africa, Djibouti has quickly become one of the most strategic of those allies.

The 5 boats were former Coast Guard vessels.


lbbrennan Friday, June 16, 2006 at 22:28:34     38.117.188.10
USN divers from USS salvor dove on wreck of wwii us SS apparently confirming she is manitowoc built lagarto lost 3 may 1945
lbbrennan Friday, June 16, 2006 at 22:17:50     38.117.188.10
Bill Hugh Daugherty Has a good auction as does Jim Meyers
Dave Kent Friday, June 16, 2006 at 21:11:27     72.200.160.237
Myerson's address is JPM_WW@YAHOO.COM. That's an underline between JPM and WW.
Bill Mitchell Friday, June 16, 2006 at 20:26:42     71.76.15.159
Can anyone out there give me Jim Myerson's email address? Thanks
Bill Nestor Friday, June 16, 2006 at 19:45:12     64.12.116.5
Where is a good place to go for stamp auctions? I already go to eBay and to Dutch Country Auctions. Any other good places to go for navals?
Ed Friday, June 16, 2006 at 18:25:25     12.76.173.180
Minehunters Osprey MHC 51 and Robin MHC 54 were decommissioned yesterday 6/15 as opposed to the 7/15 listing in Seawaves.
Greg Jacobs Friday, June 16, 2006 at 17:05:19     71.235.242.255
I just put a small (25) lot of naval covers up on eBay. Item # 9531993892.
Duane Wilson Friday, June 16, 2006 at 15:26:29     204.124.92.254
Thanks John!
john young Friday, June 16, 2006 at 15:08:24     24.136.167.162
Cover hunt in Raleigh! Visited local stamp store
by letting my fingers do the walking. Visited three listed in yelloe pages, only one had some navals- Found two Navy Day (USS America Chapter)
& Marine Corps Birthday, 1975 (Unknown), plus fake CONSTITUTION cancel (Larry, you're favorite)
The prices were better than ebay and I didn't have to pay shipping. When visiting a city, grab
the yellow pages.
You never know what you're going to find in Misc. boxes- Missed a 1600+ cover collection at the other shop by 2 weeks! Win some, lost some!
Dan Goodwin Friday, June 16, 2006 at 14:56:34     24.198.56.162
Thanks Dave.
John Lyding Friday, June 16, 2006 at 13:14:33     4.249.186.185
Hi Duane
There is a conventon cover in the mail for you
John
Greg Jacobs Friday, June 16, 2006 at 12:35:03     71.235.242.255
The Devil Child, who is directionally challenged, just told me she's going to Alabama, not South Carolina for training. Fort Rucker. Makes sense since she's transferring from an engineering battaltion to an avaiation maintenance unit.
lbbrennan Friday, June 16, 2006 at 11:31:01     38.117.188.10
SteveS, Congratulations. Just passed 23 years at the end of May. For father's day the dog and I are going to dinner -- a little male bonding it a house run by the Ayatollah and the blue eyed Taliban. Shopping for a father's day gift with a wife is dangerous. I really didn't expect to get a ring with emeralds and diamonds -- I was going to get a camera -- a couple of good naval covers would be great.
Greg Jacobs Friday, June 16, 2006 at 11:22:24     71.235.242.255
Hi Larry

Greg Jacobs Friday, June 16, 2006 at 11:16:41     71.235.242.255
Hi, Dave.
Dave Kent Friday, June 16, 2006 at 11:03:25     72.200.160.237
Dan: the cancel on the USS CALIFORNIA cover is listed in the Catalog as figure C-7o, used in 1921. The eBay image is distorted (notice how the stamp is also distorted). It's a good cancel but overrated in the Catalog (R-3). I've seen several and it probably should be only a R-1.
Dave Kent Friday, June 16, 2006 at 10:57:51     72.200.160.237
Hey, what's wrong with Millard Fillmore? He's the only president born in the same county I was.
Greg Jacobs Friday, June 16, 2006 at 09:26:03     71.235.242.255
Larry Brennan: I have no problem with eBay. I was just commenting on my experience.
SteveShay Friday, June 16, 2006 at 08:36:20     65.213.44.9
It was my wedding anniversary on the 14th Larry. Does that count? Happy Father's Day to you.
lbbrennan Friday, June 16, 2006 at 07:34:00     38.117.188.10
A quiet flag day this past Wednesday. Wasn't it the anniversary of the creation of the army?

Happy father's day on Sunday.


Dan Goodwin Friday, June 16, 2006 at 06:21:42     24.198.56.162
Take a look at this 1921 USS California cover on ebay #9530941761. I looked it up in the catalog and can't find this type being used in 1921. Is it bogus?
Roger Wentworth Friday, June 16, 2006 at 05:37:30     71.28.47.69
Richard Jones,
I see your point!! A ship with that name will probably run aground frequenlty, or bump into other ships. Who in the "H" came up with that name? We might as well name one for Millard Fillmore or Andrew Johnson if we go the Gerald Ford route.LOL!
john beirne Friday, June 16, 2006 at 03:30:58     166.68.134.175
A very good book for the summer "Flags of our Fathers". No matter how many times you read about Iwo Jima it is hard to believe what they went thru and accomplished. It chewed up 3 Marine Divisions, so it is understandible why the bomb was used....and thats not even talking about Okinawa.
lbbrennan Thursday, June 15, 2006 at 22:45:49     38.117.188.10
Karl good evening from the train at secaucus
lbbrennan Thursday, June 15, 2006 at 22:44:09     38.117.188.10
Greg Jacobs. Many thanks we've traded brief emails. The USCS sales circuit is another option
esink Thursday, June 15, 2006 at 22:11:24     71.230.243.237
Hi Jake and all...I have bought many covers on EBAY and only once did not receive the cover...a NAVY one (nice cover from the thirties) for which I was out only $1.64. After several reminders with no response, I did leave negative feedback...later checked seller's feedback history and found I was one of several to get "stiffed".
bmcm Richard Jones 3933 Thursday, June 15, 2006 at 20:38:28     70.119.224.139
Here's some southerly advice that may come in handy down the road a piece....

Next time you are too drunk to drive, walk to the nearest pizza shop and place an order. When they go to deliver it, catch a ride home with them.
bmcm Richard Jones 3933 Thursday, June 15, 2006 at 20:20:08     70.119.224.139
USS GERALD FORD (CVN-21) ?????????????
bmcm Richard Jones 3933 Thursday, June 15, 2006 at 19:53:26     70.119.224.139
The U.S. Navy awarded Northrop Grumman an additional contract modification today for further work on the LHA 6 amphibious assault ship. The contract award will be utilized for special study work and for additional long-lead time material procurement to support ship construction. This contract provides the capabilities necessary to design and build the U.S. Navy's newest and most sophisticated amphibious assault ship.
The LHA 6 will replace the LHA 1 class of amphibious assault ships, and will have the flexibility to operate as the flagship for an expeditionary strike group (ESG) as well as potentially playing a key role in the maritime prepositioning force future (MPF(F)). Northrop Grumman has built five LHAs, as well as seven USS Wasp (LHD 1)-class ships. They aretly building an eighth LHD, Makin Island.
LHA 6 will be a variant of the gas-turbine powered LHD 8. The one key difference is that the LHA 6 will be built without a well deck, which will optimize the ship for aviation operations. Changes from the LHD design include an extended hangar deck with two overhead cranes, extended high-bay areas for aircraft maintenance, a reconfigurable command-and-control complex, a relocated and smaller hospital facility, additional aviation fuel capacity, and numerous aviation-support spaces.

john young Thursday, June 15, 2006 at 19:45:35     24.136.167.162
Steve Shay: The SAN FRANCISCO cancel was one of Roy Sherman's two fancy cancel, used 1932-33 and then again USS PRESTON (27 OCT 1937)
bmcm Richard Jones 3933 Thursday, June 15, 2006 at 19:41:51     70.119.224.139
Duane Wilson of Nevada Chapter sent me an e-mail on the Nevada pictorial----

I just received word from the USPS that they have
accepted the pictorial cancel for USS Nevada 20th anniversary--16 August. The cancel will be available at 2000 Vassar St, Reno, NV 89510.

Cheers,
Duane.


john young Thursday, June 15, 2006 at 19:40:28     24.136.167.162
Steve Shay: Its called "nickle knowledge" as my family calls it. Still waiting for a "phone a friend call from one of the kids!

Paul Helman: Still in Caolinas! Upon return I'll
check the cover.

Probably will go out to Outer Banks and search for USS ATKA covers on the beach. During one of her first visits (1955 or DFII) to Antarctica, they dropped postcards (plastic envelopes) to see
where currents would bring them. Everytime I'm near the beach, I'm either looking for seashells
or ATKA covers. The postcards were to dropped in the mail- similar to business reply by some college in Michigan.


bmcm Richard Jones 3933 Thursday, June 15, 2006 at 19:29:00     70.119.224.139
Navy Times has an article on Postal ideas
Defense officials have put out a call to the private sector for ideas on how they could deliver overseas military mail more efficiently.

Officials issued a request for information June 14 asking for “unique and innovative ideas or approaches that have been developed outside of the government … that encompass a comprehensive review of the Military Postal System.”

They’re seeking ways to improve global mail operations, the proposal states, by improving service and reducing the Defense Department’s cost.


Stewart B. Milstein Thursday, June 15, 2006 at 19:08:27     12.75.162.140
be back later - so much to do now that I am retired
Stewart B. Milstein Thursday, June 15, 2006 at 19:07:08     12.75.162.140
still getting out all those oceanographic covers - the auction list has gone into the mail to anyone who has sent an SASE with .87 - 2 members rec'd it via e-mail
Stewart B. Milstein Thursday, June 15, 2006 at 19:05:42     12.75.162.140
Hi Ed.
Stewart B. Milstein Thursday, June 15, 2006 at 19:02:30     12.75.162.140
Breezy in the 70s here today - good weekend in store - the 1904 Bklyn Union el cars will be out of the museum and the 3 car train will be doing some photo runbys this weekend.
Stewart B. Milstein Thursday, June 15, 2006 at 19:01:42     12.75.162.140
Hi Paul.
Greg Jacobs Thursday, June 15, 2006 at 18:48:31     71.235.242.255
Ed = good point about traveling. Same goes for posting from work for those not retired.
Ed Thursday, June 15, 2006 at 18:44:56     12.76.172.121
Several years ago a lot of nasty stuff began appearing on this page under my name - Ed. And if I understand Rich Hoffner correctly it was one of our own members. That is what led to the IP addresses being added. Thankfully I didn't use my last name back then or all that garbage would have appeared with my last name.
As for IP's I have posted messages from hotels when I travel and a different IP would appear so even my IP could change depending upon what computer I am using. So who will know if the real Ed Devlin is the one posting the message.
If anyone wants to know my last name they can ask here on the board. I have been a regular on this site almost from its' inception but if the last name thing becomes a requirement I am gone.
CC Jake,or Dan Jacobs Thursday, June 15, 2006 at 17:39:31     24.60.220.133
Greg Jacobs

I've been trading on E-bay for seven years, both as a buyer and seller, have only had one money problem in those years, be it cash, check, money orders or Paypal, my preferred method when dealing with overseas buyers and sellers, it was a Dollar in cash, that never got to a seller in Israel who knew he had prolems with his PO in receiving payments,so he sent me the stamps anyway, he has since gone to using Paypal.

I have found on stamp and cover auction sites most all you deal with are pretty honest, but then again I very rarely buy anything on line that doesn't have a picture of it.
Because of this reason missed out on some covers I really want