BMCM Jones 3933 Monday, June 30, 2008 at 22:57:10     72.188.44.59
Log columnists and writers--I will need your materials for the August issue of the Log as soon as possible.

Call for articles--the backlog is going down. I have a good supply from Larry Brennan, but need your input,too. Anybody have additional GWF articles?


BMCM Jones 3933 Monday, June 30, 2008 at 22:46:53     72.188.44.59
July PDF version has been emailed to those who requested that format.
esink Monday, June 30, 2008 at 21:59:29     68.36.56.123
Superb PDF version of July LOG just received and read; nice blend of subjects covered.
Dave Kent Monday, June 30, 2008 at 21:19:47     68.9.251.205
Admiral Gravely, the first black admiral, was the guest speaker at the 1976 USCS convention in San Diego.
bill ruggiero Monday, June 30, 2008 at 21:12:38     4.238.91.107
Thanks everyone for your help. Over the past 4 years I search for covers and cancellations from ships my dad aboard that transversed the globe during his 26 year naval career, including Neutrality Patrol. bill ruggiero
Mike Brock Monday, June 30, 2008 at 20:49:35     71.237.202.247
USCGC EAGLE Port Visit San Francisco pictorial has been approved for 7-26-08. Send covers to:

USCGC EAGLE Festival of Sail

USPS / Rincon Finance

Attn: Philatelic Department

180 Steuart Street

San Francisco, CA 94188-9992


Mike Brock Monday, June 30, 2008 at 20:43:36     71.237.202.247
USS KIDD DDG-100 GWF covers arrived today. Poor strikes.
Steve Shay Monday, June 30, 2008 at 20:25:32     12.72.195.219
Stewart, I saw the 19 boxes, you way want to knock down a wall.
Stewart B. Milstein Monday, June 30, 2008 at 19:7:14     12.75.161.181
Got to clear the decks as it were to make room for those covers and the subsequent sorting. Covers are my indoor hobyy went it is hot, humid and otherwise not a good idea to be outside.
Stewart B. Milstein Monday, June 30, 2008 at 19:3:47     12.75.161.181
hi Don.
Don Tjossem Monday, June 30, 2008 at 18:53:29     207.118.36.203
This Day in Naval History - July 01

From the Navy News Service

1797 - Naval Regulations passed by Congress.

1800 - First convoy duty; USS Essex escorts convoy of merchant ships from East Indies to U.S.

1801 - U.S. squadron under Commodore Dale enters Mediterranean to strike Barbary Pirates.

1850 - Naval School at Annapolis renamed Naval Academy.

1851 - Naval Academy adopts four year course of study.

1911 - Trial of first Navy aircraft, Curtiss A-1. The designer, Glenn Curtiss, makes first flight in Navy's first aircraft, A-1, at Lake Keuka, N.Y., then prepares Lt. Theodore G. Ellyson, the first naval aviator, for his two solo flights in A-1.

1914 - Prohibition of alcohol begins in the Navy.

1916 - Establishment of informal school for officers assigned to submarines at New London, Conn.

1946 - First of two detonations, Operation Crossroads nuclear test.

1951 - Responsibility for the Government of Trust Territories transferred from Navy to Department of Interior.

1972 - Date of rank of Rear Admiral Samuel Lee Gravely Jr., who was first U.S. Navy admiral of African-American descent.


Don Tjossem Monday, June 30, 2008 at 17:10:43     207.118.36.203
Larry,
Thanks.
Don
lbbrennan Monday, June 30, 2008 at 17:7:7     38.117.188.10
Great new cover of the month. Thanks as always Steve S and Don T.
Dan Goodwin Monday, June 30, 2008 at 13:59:38     74.69.249.233
Got last years Christmas covers today from USS LEYTE GULF with the GWF postmark forward dated to Dec. 25, 2008 with last years 41 cent Christmas stamps. Out of 3 hits the only good one is the one with no stamp. The other two are fair. I think this pictorial is too large to produce consistantly good impressions.
Steve Shay Monday, June 30, 2008 at 11:28:45     65.213.44.2
New Cover of the Month and Member of the Month postings today.
Steve Shay Monday, June 30, 2008 at 11:28:0     65.213.44.2
Greg, the SF address is on the link on our home page under the 2008 Cancel area. (Scroll below the member of the month photo.)
Gregory Mews Monday, June 30, 2008 at 11:20:16     24.209.127.18
Is the SF post office still accepting covers for the GWF cancels, and if so, what is the address there?
Dennis Brophy Monday, June 30, 2008 at 11:11:5     64.136.27.226
Greg C.- Did those scans of USS NORTH CAROLINA SSN-777 come through ok ?
Brof
Mike Brock Monday, June 30, 2008 at 10:20:42     71.237.202.247
Recent cover arrivals in Oregon...
USS Scorpion...Philly
USS TR CVN-71...GWF
USS GW CVN-73...GWF
USS FLORIDA SSGN-728...Groton
GWF...San Francisco

Rich Hoffner Monday, June 30, 2008 at 10:8:22     68.80.47.48
The LHA6 was named by the Secratary of the Navy on Friday June 27, 2008
At the CVA'S REUNION 2008
In Jacksonville, FL.
The
USS AMERICA LHA 6
At a special banquet last night during the USS America Carrier Veterans 2008 Reunion in Jacksonville Florida, Navy Secretary Winter announced that LHA 6 will be named USS America!
In attendance were the reigning Miss America, General Peter Pace, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs and Mrs. Pace. Mrs. Pace has graciously accepted the role of ships sponsor. More info can be obtained at http://www.ussamerica.org/

lbbrennan Monday, June 30, 2008 at 9:6:14     206.53.144.5
Stewart's sales circuit is the premiere source of naval covers at a resonable price with personalized service. Few contribute as much to the USCS, its members and heirs as Stewart does.
Donald R. Tjossem Monday, June 30, 2008 at 2:38:8     207.118.28.41
This Day in Naval History - June 30

From the Navy News Service

1815 - USS Peacock takes HMS Nautilus, last action of the War of 1812.

1943 - 3rd Fleet Amphibious Force lands troops on Rendova Island while naval gunfire silences Japanese artillery.

1951 - Naval Administration of Marianas ends.


greg ciesielski Monday, June 30, 2008 at 1:1:11     65.184.47.158
Bill R - I sent you a link.

Don C. - Nothing in the Naval Cover Museum.


bill ruggiero Sunday, June 29, 2008 at 22:35:51     4.238.97.80
I am looking for cancellations or covers from the USS Barnett I found very little on this transport ship that had busy schedule during WW2, if some of you know. My dad serve aboard as BM1. I found nothing out there except one postmarked envelop, Takotna, Alaska 1940. From 1940 to 1943 is most desirable. Bill Ruggiero nagubu@earthlink.net
don campbell Sunday, June 29, 2008 at 21:52:13     24.255.4.4
Hello out there.
Does anyone have a cvover of any of the following ships they could send me a scan of?
US Gunboat BENNINGTON
USS NEWMAN K. PERRY DD/DDR 883
USS F-4 (SUBMARINE)
USS MARBLEHEAD (WW I)
My email addy is dcampbell43@cox.net
Thanks
Don Campbell
Stewart B. Milstein Sunday, June 29, 2008 at 20:7:46     12.75.162.105
The USCS has won, at auction, several thousand covers described as "1930s to 1990s incl. destroyers, battleships, carriers, cruisers, auxiliary ships, general Naval, etc..." These covers will be available via the Sales Circuit.

If you are not a member of the Sales Circuit then you may join by contacting me via e-mail (dd224@att.net). If the Sales Circuit does not meet your needs, you may drop out at any time.


lbbrennan Sunday, June 29, 2008 at 18:6:47     206.53.144.5
Greg c. BAM. Not Fred flintstone's daughter. Dangerous comments to someone with her own k bar. Larry
greg ciesielski Sunday, June 29, 2008 at 15:36:31     65.184.47.158
afternoon Larry B.
greg ciesielski Sunday, June 29, 2008 at 15:35:52     65.184.47.158
Sea Devil-Sea Dragon trivia. Both have female CO's from the same class at the CG academy. How ironic is that? But it is like I told my USMC wife, there is nothing tougher than a woman with PMS carrying a gun!
lbbrennan Sunday, June 29, 2008 at 15:35:20     206.53.144.24
Hi Greg η
lbbrennan Sunday, June 29, 2008 at 15:34:34     206.53.144.24
Dave. Nearly killed one today and at a yard party and look for a 4 legged course. Larry
greg ciesielski Sunday, June 29, 2008 at 15:32:27     65.184.47.158
Larry, I have a 6-pack of Smithwicks, 1/2 case of Sam Adams and two containers of Blue Bunny ice cream so count me in the the party.
Dave Kent Sunday, June 29, 2008 at 12:54:13     68.9.251.205
Larry said the sq word.........
Howard Tiffner Sunday, June 29, 2008 at 9:40:11     96.242.32.250
Morning Larry
john young Sunday, June 29, 2008 at 4:50:23     67.83.194.122
Rich: SEA DEVIL (WPB 8736* held formal FDC at Naval Staion Kitsap- home of CG Maritime Force Protection Unit- Bangor. Looks like Navy paid for
some of the new series.
lbbrennan Saturday, June 28, 2008 at 23:31:56     216.9.250.97
Safe trip Phil. Enjoy.
lbbrennan Saturday, June 28, 2008 at 23:31:25     216.9.250.65
Mid rats? Fried squirel and blue bunny ice cream? Everyone is celebrating summer
PHIL SCHREIBER Saturday, June 28, 2008 at 21:46:55     67.85.178.23
USS NEW JERSEY CHAPTER 90 USCS CACHET ORDERS RECEIVED AFTER JUNE 29 WILL BE FILLED AFTER AUGUST 1. I'LL BE AWAY ON VACATION DURING MONTH OF JULY.
Rich Hoffner Saturday, June 28, 2008 at 20:52:17     68.80.47.48
Mike "single mission unit" is a term somewhat new to this old "Coastie". But, since I can see by her address she is hompeported nearby Bangor WA, SEA DRAGON's mission appears to be to support the subs going in and out of port and no other missions will be assigned to her. Interesting that her crest (patch) shows a sub in it.
tkaczkowski Saturday, June 28, 2008 at 20:14:21     67.172.57.2
Hwello Stewart,,, GWF covers received today.. USS NITZE DDG 94 (Excellent); USS CHOSIN CG 65 (Excellent) but was applied as a cachet along with type 9 but stamp was not cancelled.
Stewart B. Milstein Saturday, June 28, 2008 at 19:45:34     12.75.161.194
bbl
Stewart B. Milstein Saturday, June 28, 2008 at 19:45:19     12.75.161.194
Looking forward to the convvention.
Stewart B. Milstein Saturday, June 28, 2008 at 19:43:55     12.75.161.194
Hi Thad.
lbbrennan Saturday, June 28, 2008 at 13:4:54     216.9.250.100
Cream cheese and PIK a pep sauce with plain crackers is my favorite appetizer. Cheap too.
Dave Kent Saturday, June 28, 2008 at 12:55:19     68.9.251.205
Mid rats used to be the same as breakfast, but lately in this household they have evolved into crackers and cheese, with an occasional diversion into ice cream.
lbbrennan Saturday, June 28, 2008 at 7:49:29     216.9.250.34
Greg. How about a meeting of the virtual mid rats chapter. Sounds like a good group. Larry
lbbrennan Saturday, June 28, 2008 at 7:48:38     216.9.250.34
Just saw a pair of deer cross the tracks at Metuchen station. They're in the center of town and less than 1 mile from route 1. They crossed from the revolutionary war cemetery to the parking lot. Apparently they've been all around town including near my home. Not good for kaneohe. Brave deer walking by 2 Chinese resturants. Good size and good looking animals.
greg ciesielski Saturday, June 28, 2008 at 0:1:17     65.184.47.158
Hello Richard. Up late tonight but the mid-rats are good.
greg ciesielski Saturday, June 28, 2008 at 0:0:36     65.184.47.158
Glenn S - I didn't mean to scare you that bad... I'll see you in Charlotte too.
Steve Shay Friday, June 27, 2008 at 22:31:47     12.72.195.120
Larry, no AC needed here, just smoke filters.
lbbrennan Friday, June 27, 2008 at 21:4:57     216.9.250.97
Greg C and Dave hello. At secaucus heading home for another weekend in the office. I hope the ac works.
Steve Shay Friday, June 27, 2008 at 20:30:8     12.72.192.190
Take care Glenn and see you in about a month. Time for some dinner.
Steve Shay Friday, June 27, 2008 at 20:27:20     12.72.192.190
Great Glenn. 10 frames, geez. Mine is only 5. Agreed about the scum!
Glenn Smith Friday, June 27, 2008 at 20:25:35     67.232.239.13
Yes, Steve. In fact, I am an exhibitor. My ten- frame exhibit of Pennsylvania Sea Services Connections will be on display.
Glenn Smith Friday, June 27, 2008 at 20:24:18     67.232.239.13
Thanks, Steve. Scum is apparently everywhere, not just on the bottom of the ocean!
Steve Shay Friday, June 27, 2008 at 20:23:50     12.72.192.190
Glenn, are you going to the convention? I will be able to meet you if so.
Steve Shay Friday, June 27, 2008 at 20:23:5     12.72.192.190
Glenn, I'm afraid Aadinath is a robot that snoops us out, I've seen them before in here sometimes. I now get spam daily via the sign up page because of them. One false sign up per day.
Glenn Smith Friday, June 27, 2008 at 20:20:37     67.232.239.13
Aadinath: In this chat room, people are required to identify themselves. Please return when you can do that.
tkaczkowski Friday, June 27, 2008 at 20:13:15     67.172.57.2
Received GWF cover today from USS ESSEX LHD 2 (Excellent).
Glenn Smith Friday, June 27, 2008 at 18:46:31     67.232.239.13
GC: No competition from me...I have shifted gears and am now concentrating on my PA related covers.

Brof: Likewise, I'm sure!


greg ciesielski Friday, June 27, 2008 at 17:50:29     65.184.47.158
Mr Stealth and Mr Barrister - hello to you both. I hope all is well.
greg ciesielski Friday, June 27, 2008 at 17:48:34     65.184.47.158
Glenn S. - Step away from the table and put those USMC covers down...they are mine!
lbbrennan Friday, June 27, 2008 at 16:15:24     38.117.188.10
Roger, You are right; I am a lawyer but the words I quoted were your's, and I repeat them here. "to guess at the maker's intent, and judge those that make them is fruitless and narrow minded."

I disagree. Intent and motive are important. If, as you suggest, there is nothing to conceal then I would suggest there is no reason not to put an identifier and date on the face of the cover. You always forget that I am an advocate of add-ons and the right of the owner to do almost anything with his/her property. When someone tries to sell covers to a third party the identity of the cover and its details become important and thus the maker/sponor has a duty to prevent others from falsely or fraudulently represnting the details. Otherwise, we could all copy Wentworths or Gow Ngs and no one could complain. You can't have it both ways and because you disagree with someone that doesn't necessarily make you or them "fruitlesss" or "narrow minded". We must all recognize that there are two sides to this argument and that discussion is healthy for the collecting population and others. Larry


lbbrennan Friday, June 27, 2008 at 16:9:18     38.117.188.10
Boxer Completes Pacific Phase of Continuing Promise 2008
SAN DIEGO (NNS) -- USS Boxer (LHD 4), along with various embarked units, returned to San Diego June 26, concluding nearly two months at sea in support of the Pacific phase of Continuing Promise 2008.

Continuing Promise is a collaborative effort between the United States and military partners, non-governmental organizations (NGO) and partner-nation support organizations aimed at building strong partnerships that can be called upon in the event of a regional situation requiring cooperative solutions.

The Humanitarian Civic Assistance (HCA) part of the mission provided partner nations in the U.S. Southern Command (USSOUTHCOM) area of focus a mobile, flexible and rapidly responsive medical and engineering capability. The HCA team conducted a number of missions and took advantage of several training opportunities in Central and South America.

"I couldn't be happier with the success of this mission," said Capt. Peter K. Dallman, the mission commander for the Pacific phase of Continuing Promise 2008. "Everyone did great across the board, and we far surpassed anyone's expectations of the overall success of this mission."

During the deployment, Boxer operated in Guatemala, El Salvador and Peru. The Continuing Promise medical contingent cared for 24,000 patients. Some of the team's work included medical or veterinarian care and education.

The assistance included dispensing nearly 40,000 prescriptions, treating more than 2,800 animals and teaching more than 120 classes in preventative medicine and industrial hygiene.

While anchored off the coasts of the three countries, almost 130 patients were flown to Boxer for shipboard surgeries. Surgeries included cyst and gallbladder removal, hernia repair and eye surgery.

"Providing access to medical information and treatment supports common medical needs in the region," said Continuing Promise Medical Contingent Commander, Capt. Louis Orosz. "The team of medical professionals this mission has brought together is top-notch.

"Their work here will last generations and will leave a lasting impression of the great things the United States can do."

Wasp-class amphibious assault ships like Boxer are designed with a variety of expeditionary mission capabilities, including rapid, projected humanitarian assistance worldwide. They also have the physical capacity to transport large amounts of medical and engineering supplies and equipment to most locations around the globe.

The same flexibility and configuration that makes Boxer an effective warship, also makes it an "extraordinarily" effective ship for performing humanitarian assistance missions. This multipurpose flexibility allowed Boxer to uniquely meet the engineering needs of the three partner-nations where U.S. teams provided structure renovations, constructions and repairs.

Seabees from Construction Battalion Maintenance Unit (CBMU) 303 and Navy Mobile Construction Battalion (NMCB) 5, embarked aboard Boxer, renovated eight schools and a church. In addition they conducted road and drainage repair.

Renovation work included roofing, installing new windows and new ceiling fans. The Seabees also repaired the sewage systems and provided running water to most of the facilities.

"In the Seabee community, we always say we 'Can Do'," said Lt. Micah Kiletico, the officer in charge of the CBMU 303 detachment aboard Boxer. "But the group of Seabees I've worked with on Continuing Promise 2008 have gone above and beyond, giving 200 percent effort.

"They went the extra mile to ensure they made a big difference in the lives of the citizens of Central and South America."

The Pacific Phase of Continuing Promise is one of two HCA deployments planned for the USSOUTHCOM area of focus for 2008. The second Continuing Promise deployment will be conducted by USS Kearsarge (LHD 3) in the Caribbean.

The deployment to the region is part of the Partnership of the Americas initiative. The training, clinical and engineering capability this mission brought to the region demonstrates U.S. commitment to fostering cooperative partnerships.

"It really has been an honor to visit the Navy ship that has been making a positive impact that we can see already in our country," said El Salvador President, Elias Antonio Saca during a press conference in El Salvador. "We appreciate all the humanitarian support the United States, the Navy, the captain and the entire crew of this important ship has brought.

"We profoundly appreciate your support for our inhabitants."

For many service members embarked aboard Boxer for Continuing Promise, the deployment marked their first humanitarian mission. Continuing Promise offered them a unique opportunity to see the impact their skill sets can have in a humanitarian civic assistance role.

"I hope the people we worked with know there are people back in the United States who really care for them," said Utilitiesman 1st Class (SCW) James Kocsis. "Supporting this mission has been the greatest honor I've had in my entire Navy career."



Dennis Brophy Friday, June 27, 2008 at 13:21:52     64.136.27.226
Glenn, I hope to meet you in Charlotte.
Glenn Smith Friday, June 27, 2008 at 13:6:51     67.232.239.13
Hello, Brof!
Glenn Smith Friday, June 27, 2008 at 13:6:30     67.232.239.13
Howard T. Hope you find a way to bring that new inventory to Charlotte. If not, when & where will you next have them available to look at?

Dennis Brophy Friday, June 27, 2008 at 13:5:46     64.136.27.226
Hey Glenn, Dave
Dennis Brophy Friday, June 27, 2008 at 13:5:18     64.136.27.226
Greg C. - I recieved my covers for NC commissioning middle of May. I will send you scans.
Brof
Roger Wentworth Friday, June 27, 2008 at 9:40:8     67.140.214.180
Larry B.,
You are a lawyer, so I expect you to always have a comment. LOL No one is right or wrong concerning their views about add on cachets. But the debate is really getting old and these debates don't resolve any issue about add on cachets. The fact of the matter is that they exist....always have....and always will. It's up to each collector to collect them or not. As long as those who make them label them accordingly, I have no beef about add on cachets.
BMCM Jones 3933 Thursday, June 26, 2008 at 23:58:55     72.188.44.59
Updated RIMPAC list from SEAWAVES
US Navy
• USS Kitty Hawk CV 63
• USS Lake Erie CG 70
• USS Port Royal CG 73
• USS Los Angeles SSN 688
• USS Key West SSN 722
• USS Santa Fe SSN 763
• USS Bonhomme Richard LHD 6
• USS Comstock LSD 45
• USS Pinckney DDG 91
• USS Chung-Hoon DDG 93
• USS Paul Hamilton DDG 60
• USS O'Kane DDG 77
• USS Milius DDG 69
• USS Reuben James FFG 57
• USS Rodney M Davis FFG 61

Japan
• JDS Makinami DD 112
• JDS Haruna DDH 141
• JDS Setogiri DD 156
• JDS Kirishima DDG 174
• JDS Narushio SS 595
US Coast Guard
• USCGC Rush WHEC 723
• USCGC Kiska WPB 1336
Peru
• BAP Quiρones FM 58
Military Sealift Command
• USNS Salvor T-ARS 52
• SS Cape Gibson T-AK 5051
• USNS Guadalupe T-AO 200
• USNS Sumner T-AGS 61
• USNS Able T-AGOS 20
• USNS Sioux T-ATF 171
• USNS Navajo T-ATF 169
• USNS Yukon T-AO 202
Russia
• RFS TBA
Australia
• HMAS Anzac FFH 150
• HMAS Tobruk L 60
• HMAS Success AOR 304
• HMAS Waller SSG 75
Singapore
• RSS Steadfast 70
Canada
• HMCS Ottawa FFH 341
• HMCS Regina FFG 334
South Korea
• KDS Moonmu Daewang DDG 976
• KDS Yangmanchun DDH 973
• KDS Lee Sunsin SSK 68
Chile
• CNS Almirante Riveros FF 18
• CNS O'Higgins SS 22
Target Ships
• Ex-USS David R Ray DD 971
• Ex-USS Horne DLG/CG 30


greg ciesielski Thursday, June 26, 2008 at 23:39:23     65.184.47.158
Howard Tiffner - After what you said about about Marines, drop and give me twenty! When you are done, bring the USMC covers to the show. I will be there and we had a good time in DC.
tkaczkowski Thursday, June 26, 2008 at 20:51:6     67.172.57.2
Dan - I haven't received anything on the USS NC SSN 777 boat or pictorial either.
tkaczkowski Thursday, June 26, 2008 at 20:46:26     67.172.57.2
Received GWF today - USS LEYTE GULF CG 55 (Very Good) cancel. Greg... I will get scans to you this weekend on all previous. I have only 10 more to send out and I will have the fleet covered. Now to see if it will be worth it...
Howard Tiffner Thursday, June 26, 2008 at 20:45:32     96.242.32.250
Hi
Don Tjossem Thursday, June 26, 2008 at 20:29:4     207.118.36.203
Hi Howard!
Don Tjossem Thursday, June 26, 2008 at 20:28:43     207.118.36.203
This Day in Naval History - June 27


From the Navy News Service

1813 - USS President anchors in Bergen, Norway.

1950 - To support United Nations call to assist South Korea, President Harry S. Truman authorizes U.S. naval and air operations south of 38th Parallel, Korea.



Howard Tiffner Thursday, June 26, 2008 at 20:27:1     96.242.32.250
Secondly, will there be a hospitality room at this years Convention. I was unable to get a table this year and I just recently purchased one of the greatest naval collections that I've ever had. There are about 3500 covers which are all sailors mail. There are 800 Marine Corp covers I didn't know that there were that many that could write. Well any way I torn on weather I should take the trip to the convention or not. If anybody knows for sure please let me know. Thanks
Howard Tiffner Thursday, June 26, 2008 at 20:18:48     96.242.32.250
Larry, Thanks for solving the US SC 103 mystery. Call me when you are ready.
Stewart B. Milstein Thursday, June 26, 2008 at 19:31:51     12.75.163.178
Dave - hope all is well. I have been reading the chat room.

I will probably be in Canada during the August event otherwise I would be glad to have helped out.


Stewart B. Milstein Thursday, June 26, 2008 at 19:28:10     12.75.163.178
People who commit death by train also significantly traumatize the engineer. Many of them never get back to working anything but a yard train.
Stewart B. Milstein Thursday, June 26, 2008 at 19:27:22     12.75.163.178
Hi Dave.
lbbrennan Thursday, June 26, 2008 at 17:38:58     216.9.250.99
Glad I didn't take the train to NYC this AM. Reports are a woman committed suicide at Metuchen station and was struck by the southbound Amtrak. Delayed trains for hours but something I'm glad I didn't witness.
Dan Goodwin Thursday, June 26, 2008 at 12:3:24     74.69.249.233
Received the San Francisco GWF covers today. The postmark covers half the envelope.
Mike Brock Thursday, June 26, 2008 at 10:10:39     67.168.232.131
A warship built at Hunters Point is to be sunk

Jim Doyle, Chronicle Staff Writer

Thursday, June 26, 2008

Guided missile cruiser Horne, which fought in the Vietnam... The Horne, named after a Navy admiral who began his caree... The USS Horne, mothballed in Suisun Bay, is scheduled to ...

A once powerful guided-missile cruiser that was built at San Francisco's Hunters Point Naval Shipyard, fought in the Vietnam War and the Gulf War, and was then mothballed in Suisun Bay, is scheduled to be towed to sea today to be strafed, torpedoed and sunk by allied forces in the Pacific.

The Horne (CG-30) was named for a Navy admiral who began his career on sailing ships at the turn of the 20th century, and will be remembered by legions of former crew members who served on the ship during its quarter-century of service. The ship's passing echoes a bygone era when San Francisco Bay was ringed with naval bases and warships were often seen.

Capt. Tim Lockwood of the fleet ocean tug Navajo said he plans to tow the Horne beneath the Golden Gate this afternoon on its final voyage toward Hawaii, where a multinational exercise is scheduled to use the cruiser's steel hull and superstructure for target practice.

"It's laid to rest," Lockwood said. "That's all I can say."

The Navajo is equipped with 7,200-horsepower engines - enough heft to tow an aircraft carrier. The 226-foot tug has a crew of 20 and a 1,800-foot tow wire that can pull a vessel of up to 500,000 pounds.
Commissioned in 1967

The Horne was commissioned as a guided-missile frigate in April 1967. With its tall bridge, Terrier missiles, helicopter deck and a huge sonar drone beneath the water line, the 547-foot warship was considered one of the finest vessels in the fleet. Its twin propeller shafts provided speeds of 36 knots. Its crew included 24 officers and 420 enlisted personnel.

It took five years for shipfitters, pipe fitters and boilermakers at Hunters Point to build the 8,000-ton vessel. Once commissioned, the Horne was sent to Vietnam as an escort ship to protect an aircraft carrier, deter MIG fighters from interfering with U.S. bombing runs, and rescue downed American pilots in the Gulf of Tonkin.

The Horne, home ported in San Diego, served four tours of duty in Vietnam. It also saw duty in the first Gulf War to liberate Kuwait and was deployed at other flash points including the coast of Iran in 1980-1981, Libya in 1987-1988, and Liberia in 1993.

"Serving on the Horne was probably my highlight at sea," said retired Adm. Stansfield Turner, the Horne's first skipper, who later became director of central intelligence for former President Jimmy Carter. "It hurts me personally (to hear the ship will be sunk), but I can certainly understand it. A ship that old, it's just too costly to upgrade its communications and weaponry."
52 years of Navy service

The warship was named after Adm. Frederick J. Horne, who retired in 1947 after 52 years of active service in the Navy. As a midshipman, he fought at the Battle of Santiago in the Spanish-American War. As a junior officer, he used a brass mouth horn to shout orders to sailors working aloft on the Alert, a square-rigged sailing ship.

Decades later, as vice chief of naval operations, Adm. Horne played a major role in directing the Navy's efforts during World War II.

He died in 1959, and three years later, the Navy laid the keel of the Horne to honor him. The ship was launched and christened by his widow, Edythe Horne, in October 1964.

In the mid-1970s, the Horne was modified and reclassified as a cruiser. In 1994, after nearly 27 years of service and traveling more than 750,000 miles, the Horne was decommissioned by the Pentagon's budget cutters. The Horne's payroll ran about $1 million a month.
Benicia mothball fleet

The Horne joined the Suisun Bay National Defense Reserve Fleet in Benicia - a collection of mothballed warships.

"As far as I can tell, there's no other ship afloat that was built at Hunters Point," said Paul Watroba, a representative of the Navy League. "The other ship that was around for a while was the (guided missile cruiser) Halsey. I think it was already sunk."

The South Pacific has become a graveyard of once-proud warships. Since 1971, the biennial Rim of the Pacific exercises provide a month of intensive warfare training and the opportunity to test naval gunnery, torpedo accuracy and missile drills with real targets and live ammunition.
Allies involved

This year's exercise, from Sunday through July 31, consists of 35 surface ships including the aircraft carrier Kitty Hawk, six submarines including the South Korean sub Lee Sunsin, more than 150 tactical aircraft and 20,000 personnel from Australia, Canada, Chile, Japan, Netherlands, Peru, South Korea, Singapore, United Kingdom and the United States.

Sarah Burford, a spokeswoman for the Military Sealift Command, said that the Horne is one of four warships scheduled to be sunk during this summer's exercise. The Horne was moved to a pier in Richmond in February for final preparations.

"We spend a lot of time and money to get the ship ready and to remove any environmental problems," Burford said. "We don't just tow it out there."

Apart from the battleship Iowa, there are few warships left in Suisun Bay. The mothball fleet is largely made up of auxiliary ships such as troop transports.

For sailors, a ship is more than a collection of metal and wires.
Memories of shipmates

Memories of the Horne run deep for former crew members, who cite the ship's motto - "L'Audace, Toujours, L'Audace" (Audacity, Always Audacity).

"I think a lot of people are understandably upset about it," said Joe Westerberg of Palm Springs, a former crew member who created a Web site for the Horne, www.usshorne.net. "But I was a bit relieved to hear that the ship was going to be sunk in the ocean. I think a more fitting resting place for a ship is in the ocean rather than being torn up in a scrap pile."

Some sister ships of the Horne, including the Halsey, have been torn apart at a ship-breaking facility in Brownsville, Texas.

"The USS Horne was literally my home," Westerberg said. "As a single crew member, I lived on the ship for almost three years. It really was a well-run ship - and that passed on from captain to captain and crew to crew."



Dan Goodwin Thursday, June 26, 2008 at 7:35:19     74.69.249.233
USS SWIFT HSV-2 will participate in RIMPAC. Cannot find any other announced US ships.
BMCM Jones 3933 Wednesday, June 25, 2008 at 23:46:58     72.188.38.139
RIMPAC Ships listed by Seawaves

• USS Kitty Hawk CV 63
Japan
• JDS Makinami DD 112
• JDS Haruna DDH 141
• JDS Setogiri DD 156
• JDS Kirishima DDG 174
• JDS Narushio SS 595

Peru
• BAP Quiρones FM 58
Russia
• RFS TBA
Australia
• HMAS Anzac FFH 150
• HMAS Tobruk L 60
• HMAS Success AOR 304
• HMAS Waller SSG 75
Singapore
• RSS Steadfast 70
Canada
• HMCS Ottawa FFH 341
• HMCS Regina FFG 334
South Korea
• KDS Moonmu Daewang DDG 976
• KDS Yangmanchun DDH 973
• KDS Lee Sunsin SSK 68
Chile
• CNS Almirante Riveros FF 18
• CNS O'Higgins SS 22


BMCM Jones 3933 Wednesday, June 25, 2008 at 23:42:31     72.188.38.139
Starting this weekend, the Navy will host 41 ships and over 150 aircraft for a month of international maritime exercises off Hawaii.

The drills involving the navies of nine countries from Canada to Chile are expected to last through July 31.

The Rim of the Pacific war games, held every two years, are designed to foster cooperation among nations and units.

The aircraft carrier Kitty Hawk, the Navy’s oldest active ship, will have a central role this year. It’s substituting for the carrier George Washington, which had been due to participate until a fire broke out on board last month.


lbbrennan Wednesday, June 25, 2008 at 22:32:34     216.9.250.41
Roger not everyone who disagrees with your views is equally narrow minded. Larry
lbbrennan Wednesday, June 25, 2008 at 22:31:2     216.9.250.41
Detlev, sorry we missed. Hot and busy day in NYC. How are things in Berlin? Today the US supreme court decided the punitive damages part of Exxon Valdez reducing those damages to $500 million from $2.5 billion in the 9th circuit which reduced the original trial award of $5 billion. The court was divided and the opinions confusing. The rule in admiralty is that punitive damages should not exceed compensatory damages. This case will draw interest and I have to write an analysis. Trying to do articles on NJ built carriers with the impending decommissioning of kitty hawk the last of 13 NJ fast carriers and the last conventional carrier. Also doing an article on the 65th anniversary of the loss of PT 109. Best larry
tkaczkowski Wednesday, June 25, 2008 at 20:30:55     67.172.57.2
Received GWF today - USS PORTER DDG 78 (Excellent) and USS RAMAGE DDG 61 (Super Poor - non-collectible, threw them away)
Donald R. Tjossem Wednesday, June 25, 2008 at 18:33:20     207.118.28.41
This Day in Naval History - June 26

From the Navy News Service

1884 - Congress authorizes commissioning of Naval Academy graduates as Ensigns.

1918 - Marine brigade captures Belleau Wood.

1959 - Twenty-eight naval vessels sail from Atlantic to Great Lakes, marking the formal opening of Saint Lawrence Seaway to seagoing ships.

1962 - Naval Facilities Engineering Command Cape Hatteras makes first Sound Surveillance System (SOSUS) detection of a Soviet diesel submarine.

1973 - Navy Task Force 78 completes minesweeping of North Vietnamese ports.



Dan Goodwin Wednesday, June 25, 2008 at 17:18:50     74.69.249.233
I smell smoke in Georgia.
Roger Wentworth Wednesday, June 25, 2008 at 16:22:22     75.91.45.144
Here we go again...yet another add on cachet debate. The way I look at it is if you don't like them, don't buy them and visa versa. To prescribe criteria as to appropriate cachet content, to guess at the maker's intent, and judge those that make them is fruitless and narrow minded. Add ons have been being made for as far back as cachets were first in vouge. I have scores of them in my naval collection and consider them "legit". I don't question whether a cachet is an add on when I buy it...I buy it if I like it, irrespective of when the cachet was applied.
I have personally made hundreds of add ons on naval covers and FDOI covers and sold them all to USCS & AFDCS collectors....who requested them, I might add. I have also made many add ons for USCS dealers/collectors and FDOI collectors who sent me their own covers to add my cachets on to. (I do mark mine as A/O cachets on the back of each, as I do agree that they should be marked as an add on cachet, so that the "purists" won't have their sensitivities ruffled.
Detlev mehlis Wednesday, June 25, 2008 at 12:13:53     85.178.251.194
Seeems I missed you again...
Detlev mehlis Wednesday, June 25, 2008 at 12:7:49     85.178.251.194
Hi Larry,
good to catch you. How's life at the Big Apple
these days?
Steve Shay Wednesday, June 25, 2008 at 11:59:42     65.213.44.2
USCGC Bertholf will be commissioned in Alameda, CA on August 4.
john young Wednesday, June 25, 2008 at 6:52:9     67.83.194.122
Coast Guard News:
USCGC BERTHOLF (W-751) will visit Baltimore MD
(Inner Harbor)this weekend 28-29 JUN
Donald R. Tjossem Wednesday, June 25, 2008 at 1:33:44     207.118.28.41
This Day in Naval History - June 25

From the Navy News Service

1917 - Navy convoy of troopships carrying American Expeditionary Forces arrives in France.

1950 - North Korea invades South Korea beginning Korean Conflict.



greg ciesielski Tuesday, June 24, 2008 at 22:59:28     65.184.47.158
Thanks Thad, I look forward to them.
tkaczkowski Tuesday, June 24, 2008 at 20:32:50     67.172.57.2
Received today - GWF USS FRANK CABLE AS 40 (Excellent). Greg... I get some time I will scan all these in for you.

lbbrennan Tuesday, June 24, 2008 at 20:26:44     216.9.250.44
Steve s the book published by the author of the SC website is great. He even cites one of my covers and letters. To be immodest. I have covers and correspondence from the XO of the SC of which Todd wolfsen's great uncle was CO. Visit that site and buy the book larry
Dave Kent Tuesday, June 24, 2008 at 18:35:20     68.9.251.205
For some reason during World War I sailors on sub chasers invariably gave their return address as "US SC-103" instead of "USS SC-103." It ends up looking like "USS C-103."
Steve Shay Tuesday, June 24, 2008 at 18:17:0     65.213.44.2
Great web site for SC information: www.subchaser.org
lbbrennan Tuesday, June 24, 2008 at 18:10:30     38.117.188.10
Howie, It would be SC 103. Call me please lawrence.brennan@wilsonelser.com Larry
Howard Tiffner Tuesday, June 24, 2008 at 17:37:9     96.242.32.250
I need HELP!! Can anybody out there answer the following question what exactly was USS C103? I have a Censored cover dated July 2, 1918.
lbbrennan Tuesday, June 24, 2008 at 15:18:48     38.117.188.10
Reservist to become Fourth Fleet commander

NSW Commander Departs for U.S. 4th Fleet
CORONADO, CALIF. (NNS) -- The commander of Naval Special Warfare Command (NSW) turned over command of 8,400 Navy SEALs, special warfare combatant-craft crewmen and supporting staff during a ceremony today at the Naval Amphibious Base in Coronado, Calif.

Rear Admiral Joseph D. Kernan relinquished command to his deputy commander, Rear Adm. Garry J. Bonelli. Kernan had served at the helm of the Navy's special operations forces since last June.

Rear Adm. Edward G. Winters III will ultimately assume command of NSW later this year. He is currently assigned as commanding general, Iraqi National Counterterrorism Force Transition Team, Multi-National Force Iraq, in Baghdad.

Kernan will go on to serve as both commander, U.S. 4th Fleet, and commander, U.S. Naval Forces Southern Command in Mayport, Fla. U.S. 4th Fleet is responsible for U.S. Navy ships, aircraft and submarines operating in the Caribbean Sea and Central and South America and the surrounding waters. The command was originally operational from 1943-1950 before it was disestablished. The Chief of Naval Operations announced its re-establishment April 24.

"Fourth fleet, along with its traditional security and high seas exercise roles, is headed for the littorals," said Kernan, "and the sailors will be going feet-dry."

Kernan's selection for command of 4th Fleet was lauded by guest speaker Admiral Eric T. Olson, commander, United States Special Operations Command. "We applaud his selection to command a numbered fleet of the United States Navy. He's the first Navy SEAL to do so – in fact he's the first SEAL flag officer to command anything outside of the special operations community."

During the ceremony, Kernan received a Distinguished Service Medal for his year of service as commander. During his tenure, one of Kernan focused on putting programs and initiatives in place to increase the number of SEAL recruits in order to meet the demanding requirements for special operations forces in the Global War on Terrorism. He and his wife, Jan, pioneered a comprehensive program focused on helping NSW families adjust to the challenges associated with combat deployments.

"He has brilliantly and energetically led this force," Olson remarked, "while recruiting and posturing for even greater success the force of tomorrow."

After assuming command Bonelli promised to do his best to follow in the footsteps of his predecessor.

"My intent during my tenure here in command is very straightforward: I will listen, I will learn and I will lead."

Bonelli's distinguished career includes two combat tours in Vietnam, command of eight Navy Reserve units, and command of SEAL Team 5, marking him as the only reservist to command an active duty SEAL Team. He later became deputy commander of Navy Reserve Readiness Command Southwest and then chief of staff for Naval Special Warfare Command. In his prior civilian profession, Bonelli served as a staff director with the San Diego Association of Governments, a strategic research, planning and transportation agency working for the 18 cities and county government in the region. He helped manage a $14 billion public infrastructure program and developed public policy initiatives for locally elected officials on numerous issues encompassing population growth, transportation, governance, housing, environmental management, economic development, public safety, bi-national coordination and military-civilian community relationships.

Naval Special Warfare Command is the Navy component of United States Special Operations Command and the special operations component of the United States Navy. The command supports, trains, equips and deploys maritime special operations forces to meet the operational requirements of combatant commanders. These special operations forces include more than 8,400 active-duty and reserve SEALs (Sea-Air-Land) and Special Warfare Combatant-craft Crewman (SWCC) operators and support personnel based primarily in San Diego, Calif., Norfolk, Va., and deployed all over the world.


lbbrennan Tuesday, June 24, 2008 at 8:40:5     206.53.144.16
Dave. I've been a fan of scotch with minimal ice. They use cheap water here
I had a ore wwii navy dentist who wouldn't repair a filling if I wouldn't let him extract my wisdom teeth when I was an ensign. I retired as a captain 33 years later with 3 still impacted but non troublesome wisdom teeth. The fourth never developed shame we have dry ships. Even the medicinal alcohol is long gone. Larry
greg ciesielski Monday, June 23, 2008 at 23:8:26     65.184.47.158
Dan G - I live 2 hours north of Wilmington and I haven't seen my North Carolina covers since I mailed them. I got one from the Decatur Chapter today though and I scanned it and put it in the museum. I got you GWF scan also. Thanks for supporting the program!
tkaczkowski Monday, June 23, 2008 at 20:55:24     67.172.57.2
Received GWF - USS ANTIETAM CG 54 (Excellent); USS GUNSTON HALL LSD 44 (Excellent) and USS PAUL HAMILTON DDG 60 (Good).
Dave Kent Monday, June 23, 2008 at 20:45:26     68.9.251.205
I had my wisdom teeth extracted by a Navy dentist many decades ago. He instructed me to put ice on them. When I returned a couple of weeks later he said they were healing very well and I must have followed his advice. I said, "Yes, sir," without mentioning the Scotch that accompanied the ice.
lbbrennan Monday, June 23, 2008 at 19:57:53     216.9.250.37
Brof
Hot humid day again. Reminds me of Charleston

Any day that begins in the dentist chair can't be great. More discomfort from the extraction two weeks ago than the drilling today

I don't want to whine but this tooth has been a problem for a year and a half and now after it is gone still reminds me

Larry


Dan Goodwin Monday, June 23, 2008 at 19:56:9     74.69.249.233
The USS ANZIO CG-68 is currently anchored at Boothbay Harbor, Maine for the Windjammer Festival. No, I did not send covers.
Don Tjossem Monday, June 23, 2008 at 18:17:16     207.118.36.203
This Day in Naval History - June 24

From the Navy News Service

1833 - USS Constitution enters drydock at Charlestown Navy Yard, Boston for overhaul. The ship was saved from scrapping after public support rallied to save the ship following publication of Olive Wendell Holmes' poem, "Old Ironsides."

1926 - Office of Assistant Secretary of the Navy set up to foster naval aeronautics; aircraft building increased.

1948 - Berlin airlift initiated to offset the Soviet Union's blockade access of United States, France, and Great Britain to their sectors of Berlin.


Dennis Brophy Monday, June 23, 2008 at 17:35:12     64.136.27.226
Hi Larry, I trust that all is well in your world?
Brof
lbbrennan Monday, June 23, 2008 at 17:32:6     38.117.188.10
Wolfgang, I probably am going to send some covers to some ships this summer. If you are interested send me some of your covers and I will include them with mine and those of some other collectors. I can't promise any greater degree of success but this may help cut your overhead cost. My address and email are in the LOG but my email addresss is lawrence.brennan (AT) wilsonelser.com

Hi Brof.
Larry


Dennis Brophy Monday, June 23, 2008 at 17:28:51     64.136.27.226
The sun is shining, the bee's are buzzing, the Birds are singing and The LOG arrived today in rural SC.
Wolfgang Hechler, Germany Monday, June 23, 2008 at 17:20:57     84.167.109.90
Dan, yes I'm in the same boat. I had send out one prepared cover to the Wilmington, NC post office for pictorial postmark and one cover to the submarine for commissioning-cachet. No results until today.
My losses for USN-ships is about 60-70%. For my German collection losses are about 2 to 4%. In the 1970 to 1990 years the USN losses also were just around 5-8%.
Today with such high losses we will find no new members who will share our hobby. Sorry to say.
What do we make wrong?
Don Tjossem Monday, June 23, 2008 at 17:0:52     207.118.36.203
I always forwar the fake emails from eBay or PayPal to spoof@ebay or spoof@PayPal and let them deal with them as they will. They always advise me if it was a fake or not. Works for me...They have a lot at stake in this game and really keep on top of it.


Dan Goodwin Monday, June 23, 2008 at 16:12:44     74.69.249.233
I still have not receioved my North Carolina SSN-777 FDC covers that I sent to the boat. Anyone else in the same "boat"?
Dan Goodwin Monday, June 23, 2008 at 16:8:48     74.69.249.233
I have sent dozens of those bogus paypal messages to ebay security (paypal is part of ebay I think) and I still get them. Yeah...what security?
Dan Goodwin Monday, June 23, 2008 at 16:6:28     74.69.249.233
Received my GWF Bremerton covers today (second try) and they were postmarked correctly this time.
Mike Meister Monday, June 23, 2008 at 14:59:44     64.12.116.137
I get those PayPal messages also and I don't have a PayPal account!
Dennis Brophy Monday, June 23, 2008 at 13:39:52     65.41.172.42
Hey Greg - Sorry I missed you last night. I was enjoying a tall mulatein ( a bait flavored lager )and contemplating the high incidence of possum suicide on our highways.
Brof
john young Monday, June 23, 2008 at 12:5:52     67.83.194.122
Coast Guard News:
Received word that WAESCHE (WMSL 751) will be
christened on 26 JUL 2008 and launched at a later
date (????) Send requests to contact: BM1/c Ginger Feeney, Security-Training, USCG Gulf Coast
PCAF, P.o. Box 508, Pascagoula. MS 39568
Dan Goodwin Monday, June 23, 2008 at 11:36:23     74.69.249.233
I just purchased a roll of the new flags of our nation commemoratives intending to use them for covers. The stamps are very glossy and will probably smudge the ink.
lbbrennan Monday, June 23, 2008 at 9:25:3     216.9.250.35
Obviously Stewart Milstein another crackberry induced error.
lbbrennan Monday, June 23, 2008 at 8:3:31     216.9.250.102
I have an enterprise Glenn recovery good date she might have been the intended prime recovery ship. Stewart mulatein has studied the subject and prepared a data sheet.
greg ciesielski Monday, June 23, 2008 at 0:46:40     65.184.47.158
Hi Brof!
greg ciesielski Monday, June 23, 2008 at 0:46:13     65.184.47.158
Dan G - 58th Anniversary of the USMC landing at Inchon Korea on September 15th.
Dave Kent Sunday, June 22, 2008 at 22:39:9     68.9.251.205
Rich: if you only got one fake email about PayPal you must live a sheltered life. I must get two or three every day. I know they are fakes because I use a different ID for my eBay and PayPal business.
Dave Kent Sunday, June 22, 2008 at 22:38:11     68.9.251.205
If I recall correctly, the PC argued at his court martial that a helicopter pilot flew the Project Mercury stamps out to the ship. His argument didn't seem to persuade the jury. Most everyone agrees that any NOA FDCs of the stamp are backdated fakes.
Rich Hoffner Sunday, June 22, 2008 at 20:5:22     68.80.47.48
On USS NOA covers. I recall a German collector made arrangements with the PC aboard the USS NOA to backdate his printed covers for the Recovery of the Mercury capsule. It did not take long for the cover to become known in the US and the info that the stamps release was kept secret until the flight was sucessful. It meant that the ship had left port, without the Project Mercury stamp aboard. The PC was court martialed as far as I can remember. USCS member Ed Bizub has a website that shows the ship returned to port on 2-23-62 (cover valued at 145.00). The stamp was issued on 2-20-62. If she returned on 2-23-62 it is doubtful that any Project Mercury stamps made it to the ship on the date she got in, so these are probably backdated also, although I am not sure if this is correct. USS NOA was the actual recovery ship for MA-9 (John Glenn). One interesting note is that the USS NOA was not the intended "Recovery ship" for the flight, but MA-9 fell short of the projected landing zone and NOA (code named Steelhead) was the closest ship.
Dan Goodwin Sunday, June 22, 2008 at 20:0:55     74.69.249.233
40 years ago: Sept. 7 USS JOHN F. KENNEDY CV-67 FDC. Dec. 23 crew of the USS PUEBLO AGER-2 are released by North Korea.
Dan Goodwin Sunday, June 22, 2008 at 19:57:0     74.69.249.233
50 years ago: Aug. 3 USS NAUTILUS SSN-571 first to reach the North Pole (submerged). Aug. 11 USS SKATE SSN-578 first to surface at the North Pole.
Dan Goodwin Sunday, June 22, 2008 at 19:46:9     74.69.249.233
Here are some 65th anniversary events that will make good covers: Aug. 1-2 Sinking of PT-109; Aug. 6-7 Battle of Vella Gulf. (The cruiser USS VELLA GULF CG-72 would be an appropriate postmark). Nov.1 Marines land on Bougainville (Greg take note!). Nov. 17 USS BATAAN CVL-29 FDC. Nov. 24 USS WASP CV-18 FDC. Nov. 29 USS HORNET CV-12 FDC. Dec. 15 USS SAN JACINTO CVL-30 FDC.
Rich Hoffner Sunday, June 22, 2008 at 19:33:52     68.80.47.48
Fradulent PayPal message going around. Ignore it. My Norton program picked it up. If you open it you will see the PayPal screen, but it is completely fake.
Mike Brock Sunday, June 22, 2008 at 14:1:16     67.168.232.131
The envelopes I have are white 6 3/4 regular size made of 25% cotton cockle, with no gum flap. The no glum flap prevents the envelope from being sealed. Rich Hoffner uses these same envelopes for the Stephen Decatur Chapter covers he produces. Rich & I believe the envelope manufacture charges more for the no glum flap, because they have to stop the production cycle to turn off the "glum machine" when they get to the flap.

meabrock@comcast.net

200 envelopes @ $36.00
500 envelopes @ $66.00
1000 envelopes @ $116.00


lbbrennan Sunday, June 22, 2008 at 12:47:15     216.9.250.65
I have to get working on computer generated cachets and see what fun I can have

The 65th anniversary of the loss of PT 109 is this august. Send covers.


lbbrennan Sunday, June 22, 2008 at 12:44:35     216.9.250.45
Steve t and Steve s good sources of envelopes. I bought 5k and they'll last my lifetime and longer. Best is without gum on flap. Larry
Steve Shay Sunday, June 22, 2008 at 10:59:11     12.72.192.23
Stephen, Mike Brock has envelopes. I"m sure he'll post a response with the details.
Stephen Tusing Sunday, June 22, 2008 at 8:44:28     68.57.54.157
I have been getting my envelopes from http://www.miracle-envelope.com/cotton.html

$31.31 + Shipping for a case of 500 #6 Envelopes.

25% Cotton Paper & Envelopes
In white with a Cockle and Imaging Finish.
25% Cotton Bond is acid free, and archival strength paper. This provides a professional look and long life to legal documents, letterheads, and presentations. The Cockle Finish provides a crisp feel to the paper, and the Imaging Finish assures a quality look for laser, ink jet and high speed copier applications.

I will probably need more by the end of the Summer. Does anyone else have some good sources for envelopes or recommendations? I've been happy with these but am open to change.


greg ciesielski Sunday, June 22, 2008 at 0:5:32     65.184.47.158
Duane - Agree, they are your covers and collection but to make people like Dave Kent happy, he needs clear postmarks for the catalog updates. That is what started my thought process plus we want to show what we do to the best of our abilities. I wouldn't impose my opinions on anybody but then again, I use Zazzle stamps on occassion. That is how you get commemorative stamps you want.
greg ciesielski Sunday, June 22, 2008 at 0:1:21     65.184.47.158
BMCM Jones - Thanks for the plug but please keep the GWF cancels coming. When you get a cover, scan it at 200 dpi or better and send it to me. I'll take the scan and manipulate for my needs and then post it to the museum. Just because the ship might already be there doesn't stop the process. Data gathering is ongoing.
Gregory Mews Saturday, June 21, 2008 at 22:57:6     24.209.127.18
I talked to a rep with the Manitowoc Company today, the parent firm which built the USS Freedom in Marinette, Wisconsin, LCS-1. The ship is expected to have "sea" trials in July somewhere on Lake Michigan, but the where is being kept a secret, he doesn't even know. The rep said the ship was initially expected to reach top speeds of around 40 knots, but they think they can hit up to 50 knots and can pull enough force if turning to create a G force for those on her deck. Also, the ship right now is slated to commission sometime in November in Milwaukee, and then leave the Great Lakes before winter sets in.
Duane Wilson Saturday, June 21, 2008 at 22:43:28     76.227.125.7
Greg C., I generally use PH or Forever stamps because they leave a little more room for the often gigantic postmarks. I used the Famous Marines stamps until the postal rate increased. If the USPS comes out with another commemorative that matches the theme, I'll likely use that. All in all I'm a firm believer in "If it feels good, do it"!
BMCM Jones 3933 Saturday, June 21, 2008 at 22:11:23     72.188.38.139
Keep up with arriving GWF postmarks at the Naval Cover Museum.
Greg C is keeping that current with all of your scans you are sharing.

http://www.navalcovermuseum.org/


BMCM Jones 3933 Saturday, June 21, 2008 at 22:9:23     72.188.38.139
I had another complaint from South Carolina this week. Member finally got his print copy today. Somebody sat on them at the regional post office.
Dan Goodwin Saturday, June 21, 2008 at 20:44:26     74.69.249.233
Greg, I agree 100% with your comment about using Purple Heart or Forever stamps on Naval covers.
tkaczkowski Saturday, June 21, 2008 at 20:44:23     67.172.57.2
GWF covers received today from: USS PRINCETON CG 59 (Excellent),USS CHUNG-HOON DDG 93 (Excellent), USS ROOSEVELT DDG 80 (Good-Light), USS IWO JIMA LHD 7 (Good - overcancel too, not returned in SASE), USS HAWES FFG 53 (Excellent - overcancel too, not returned in SASE).
Dennis Brophy Saturday, June 21, 2008 at 20:6:48     64.136.27.226
Dave-I can believe that.
Dennis Brophy Saturday, June 21, 2008 at 20:5:46     64.136.27.226
Hi Dave
Dave Kent Saturday, June 21, 2008 at 20:5:22     68.9.251.205
Brof: obviously the LOG is such a fantastic magazine that your postman decided to take it home and read it first before delivering it.
Dennis Brophy Saturday, June 21, 2008 at 20:2:44     64.136.27.226
June 21st, Still no log in an otherwise sunny South Carolina. I fear I have angered the postal gods.
Brof
Dennis Brophy Saturday, June 21, 2008 at 19:58:56     64.136.27.226
Hi Wolfgang
greg ciesielski Saturday, June 21, 2008 at 18:23:31     65.184.47.158
Just a comment on stamps used for Naval covers. I have been working with alot of covers in the past few years because of the Naval Cover Museum, and in my opinion, large, colorful commemorative stamps should not be used. We are collecting the postmarks as the prime reason for these covers not the stamps. Use commemoratives on your mail and First Day Covers. I would suggest using the small Purple Heart or Forever stamp on Naval covers. They are relevent to the subject, one is a military award and the other can be viewed as a ship's bell... They also take ink well and can be tucked up in the corner of the envelope giving more room for the postmark and cachet. Thoughts? Comments?
Mike Brock Saturday, June 21, 2008 at 15:57:41     67.168.232.131
Is anyone else having smudge problems with the Frank Sinatra postage stamps?
lbbrennan Saturday, June 21, 2008 at 12:8:23     216.9.250.117
Stephen. Invest in good quality envelopes for your covers. In 40 years you'll see the difference. Larry
BMCM Jones 3933 Saturday, June 21, 2008 at 11:40:15     72.188.38.139
PCU NEW HAMPSHIRE CHRISTENING Live now
http://www.gdeb.com/NHwebcast.html
BMCM Jones 3933 Saturday, June 21, 2008 at 11:37:39     72.188.38.139
USS NEW YORK Commissioning website is open

http://www.ussny.org/commissioning.html


Stephen Tusing Saturday, June 21, 2008 at 8:52:4     64.12.116.137
My Fleet Week USS Leyte Gulf covers arrived in Virginia yesterday. Great strikes.

On a different collecting topic, I also received a very interesting Operation Iraqi Freedom Postcard from Baghdad postmarked Military Post Office 09316. Where the stamp would go on the back, the postcard is pre-printed FREE MAIL inside of a small sqare and there are lines beside for Military Personel to fill out their information. I met the sender at our Family's Bed and Breakfast. I learned she was stationed in Iraq and asked her if she'd drop a Postcard in the Mail to me when she got back. True to her word, she must have done it the second she got off the plane. 7 Days from Iraq to Virginia, USA.

I wish some of my Ship mail came back that fast. I'm in a cover recession with quite a few out right now. They'll all hit home at once and I won't know what to do with myself.

The computer is a valuable tool to the Hobby. Without it, we wouldn't even have the simple pleasure of this forum. We will continue to find ways to enjoy research and collecting through technology. Mail Merge has been my God send. I use it to automatically address all of my envelepes, and personalize my Letter of Request. Select the Ships you want to send to and print. The "Printer God" is hungry....Must have more envelopes!


lbbrennan Saturday, June 21, 2008 at 0:20:22     216.9.250.39
Interesting posting, sorry for its length
Navy, Army Divers Work to Raise Sunken Former Soviet SubStory Number: NNS080620-08Release Date: 6/20/2008 4:02:00 PM
By Senior Chief Mass Communication Specialist (SW/AW) Dave Nagle, Navy Expeditionary Combat Command Public Affairs

PROVIDENCE, R.I. (NNS) -- U.S. Navy expeditionary combat salvage divers and a contingent of U.S. Army divers are taking part in a unique real-world training mission that is honing their skills while benefiting the local community in Providence.
Nearly 100 active and reserve Sailors and Soldiers, including 50 divers from Mobile Diving and Salvage Unit (MDSU) 2 in Norfolk, and the U.S. Army Dive Company based at Fort Eustis, Va. arrived in Providence, June 1 for training salvage operations on the sunken former Soviet submarine K-77, also known as Juliett 484.
The former Soviet cruise missile submarine sank at its mooring here during a freak storm on April 17, 2007.
This salvage operation, comprised of a heavy Navy diving and salvage footprint and a contingent of Army divers, is an extremely unique opportunity for training on a complete joint salvage mission, and is being performed as part of the Department of Defense's (DoD) Innovative Readiness Training (IRT) program. Through IRT, military units receive training by taking part in real-world, community-based projects.
"The Department of Defense would normally achieve readiness for our waterway clearance and salvage mission through baseline funding and normal training packages; however, this is a unique opportunity to get more effective training for nearly the same amount of money and benefit the local community at the same time," said Army Capt. Charles Denike, Army Diving Company commanding officer and Juliett Deputy Mission commander.
"So, instead of spending tax dollars by simulating a training environment, the Innovative Readiness Training program allows us to train in a complex joint, inter-agency real-world command and control, and diving and salvage project, ultimately maximizing the effectiveness of the taxpayers' dollars in a direct, measurable way in both our military program and in the local civil sector in the process. For Army, while Maritime Security is certainly a Navy mission, the opportunity here helps ensure the appropriate level of joint capability and capacity for potential future missions."
DoD involvement began in the summer of 2007, when Navy and Army divers conducted underwater surveys to determine how to safely recover K-77 from the Providence River. In April, the divers, supported by Naval Sea Systems Command engineers, continued necessary surveys and engineering calculations prior to the complex salvage operation. The project involves patching and pumping water from the submarine's pressure vessel, and repairing the submarine's ballast tanks, in order to ultimately raise it to the surface.
"This has been a unique experience in itself," said Sgt. Chaise Turner of the U.S. Army Dive Company. "You don't get the chance to dive on an old former Soviet submarine all the time."
"There's so much history behind it," added Navy Diver 1st Class (DV) Eric Riggenbach from MDSU 2. "I've dived on a few American submarines, but to see how a Soviet submarine was designed has been really interesting."
According to Cmdr. Dan Shultz, commanding officer, MDSU 2 and Juliett Mission commander, this project provides a valuable opportunity for both Army and Navy divers to hone their expeditionary diving and salvage skills in a real-world setting, skills that are vital in support of the nation's strategy for Maritime Security, including peacetime support to international humanitarian and disaster relief, engagement with international partners, as well as wartime missions.
"The ability of U.S. Navy and Army divers to clear waterways, ports and harbors is important to our nation's ability to help other nations open their own waterways and lanes for the movement of commerce," said Shultz. "This would also include our own ports and waterways critical commerce in the U.S., especially following a natural disaster or terrorist event."
Both the Navy and Army divers bring a vast range of experience in a variety of environments, but the shallow, murky water of the Providence River offers additional training value.
"A lot of the younger guys are getting the experience being in a zero-visibility situation with cold water and long dive times, as opposed to versus shorter times we're used to," explained Turner.
Riggenbach agreed. "This is probably one of the only opportunities we get to put hands on and operate certain equipment, that we normally only use on salvage ships."
Additionally, this mission provides the opportunity for the divers to train together in a joint setting, with Army and Navy divers integrated into one team.
"We've learned a lot from each other," said Riggenbach. "The Army does some things different than us, but they're very professional and hard working as we are. Whenever you get divers together, regardless of their service, we're still the same."
Supporting the divers are engineers from Naval Sea Systems Command's Supervisor of Diving and Salvage, and Sailors from Explosive Ordnance Disposal Expeditionary Support Unit 2, who are providing logistics and communications support, as well as personnel to operate the Army Landing Craft Unit that serves as a diving platform.
lbbrennan Saturday, June 21, 2008 at 0:8:49     206.53.144.28
Bmcm good morning

Elgin. I put notes on the reverse of covers I send. Ship hull numbere dates sent and received and mission/deployment. Larry


esink Friday, June 20, 2008 at 22:26:33     68.36.56.123
More on add-ons...For the New Orleans flood/hurricane disaster and also the tsunami incident a few years ago, I sent covers to ships rendering assistance and when received, I added a simple line or two with my black-and-white laser printer as a memory aid for the covers. Otherwise, I would have forgotten the reason for sending and receiving the covers and eventually the covers would be meaningless, unless researched every time I check through my collection and see these covers. These few lines are added immediately after the incident or event and are technically appropriate to the time period. Adding these lines are not like adding a computer-generated cachet to a cover with a 1920s or 1930s cancel which would destroy its authenticity.
Donald R. Tjossem Friday, June 20, 2008 at 19:59:29     207.118.27.41
This Day in Naval History - June 21

From the Navy News Service

1898 - USS Charleston captures island of Guam from Spain.

1945 - Okinawa declared secure after most costly naval campaign in history. United States had 30 ships sunk and 223 damaged, mostly from kamikaze attacks, with 5,000 dead and 5,000 wounded, while the Japanese lost 100,000 dead.


Dave Kent Friday, June 20, 2008 at 18:53:42     68.9.251.205
I'll readily admit that I do add-on cachets, but my situation is somewhat different. Being an old computer geek, I realized around the early 1980s that someday the technology would arrive that would enable me to print my own cachets with a computer. I began servicing small quantities of covers, generally around 15 to 25 each, for various submarine events, mostly launchings and commissionings, because that's my interest. Most are postmarked in either Groton or Newport News. A few years ago I spotted a nice color inkjet printer in the store and went into business. I mark each one on the back with a rubber stamp with my name and the number of cachets made of that design. Although technically they are add-ons, I don't feel there is any deception because the covers were made specifically to have a cachet added to them.
Rich Hoffner Friday, June 20, 2008 at 18:36:43     68.80.47.48
Yo Greg!
Rich Hoffner Friday, June 20, 2008 at 18:36:0     68.80.47.48
Large lot of 250 covers on eBay offered by harbour stamps, lot # 320263826800. Bidding is slow. 1980's, 1990's.
Dan Goodwin Friday, June 20, 2008 at 16:3:43     74.69.249.233
I do computer cachets as do many other USCS members. I do NOT do add ons. Any cachet I produce is for a current event or an anniversary of a ship that is out of commission. Normally I do less than 10 for any event. The extras I use for trading and do sell some to recoup some of the "cost to produce". My older covers can be identified only by the style or in some cases my own address on the cover. For the past few years I have been using a rubber stamp on the reverse of all my covers indicating my name and USCS number. To also date them would be redundant since the date is already in the postmark. This works for me because I don't add cachets to older covers. If I did, I would so note it on the envelope reverse.
Steve Shay Friday, June 20, 2008 at 14:48:42     65.213.44.2
Don, agreed, I can't add anything to your comments.
Don Tjossem Friday, June 20, 2008 at 14:10:26     64.91.49.4
Stephen,
Your posting is very interesting and informative. The idea of always identifying the author of an "add on" cachet is very important to my way of thinking. It really makes no difference to my way of thinking what the design is or when it was put on, but that it is identified, so that future collectors can attribute it to the correct author or era.

When you get down to it it really is nobody's business what we do to a naval cover in the privacy of our own home, but out of respect for the hobby and U.S.C.S. we should identify it properly.


greg ciesielski Friday, June 20, 2008 at 13:24:16     65.184.47.158
GWF San Francisco (pm'd May 6 2008) covers arrived today. For those of you needing to know the postmark size, it's a biggie! 4 inches wide, 1.5 inches high.
lbbrennan Friday, June 20, 2008 at 9:2:40     216.9.250.97
Stephen thanks for your valuable contribution to this important discussion. I think sponsors should put an identifier, names or initials, and a year on the face as part of any cachet larry
lbbrennan Friday, June 20, 2008 at 9:0:9     216.9.250.65
Greg c. We always do turn overs as we in chop and out chop. They've been getting closer to home for years since the 6th fleet turn over came west of Gibraltar. For transfers we have face to face turn overs aka contact relief. We prefer capsize for the unfortunate event you describe. Great late night humor

Brof. Coffee and donuts would be fine. Just tried to get a cup of tea at a bakery and the line was too slow and the price 50 % higher than mid town Manhattan. I'm going to buy paper cups and lids or recycle MC Donald cups for the train.


Stephen Tusing Friday, June 20, 2008 at 0:33:30     68.57.54.157
USS Albuquerque Covers today in Virginia from Groton. Very well struck as always.

On the subject of add-on cachets...In the preparation of my own covers, I like to think of myself as a purist. 1.) I believe that a cover should be addressed. It is the mark of the collector as an authentication. Recent articles about Karcher go to show how important it is to know the point of origin in our hobby. I'm proud to put my name on them. When I see an unaddressed cover, my first impression is that it is a "Cover for Profit" especially in modern covers. It is frustrating to see event covers come up on Ebay before mine have even arrived. 2.) I reserve all other space for markings from the ship itself be it Hand-stamp, Signature, Type 9, Auxillary Markings, whatever. I preserve them as they are returned to me.

I get quite a few back with nothing but a postmark. I actually stopped requesting Ship's Cachet Hand Stamps as most strikes I had been receiving were worn out or over-inked. I love my "plain" envelopes and rue the day that anyone would print something over them.

Do I buy covers with add-on cachets? Sure I do. I picked one up today with an event cancellation I had missed. I've even generated a couple myself on a series of Seabee covers I sent out last year. There are a couple of USCS Members out there who do a very good job with the computer generated add-on cachet and they are a good way of preserving the history behind the cover. The problem with them is that they are typically printed in small number with no indicator of the artist.

My biggest pet peeve with the add-on cachet is that it not interfere with the cancellation itself. I have seen whole covers that have been printed on like a photo and other add-ons that were poorly placed so as the postal clerk had no option but to overstrike. It has always boggled me why these people don't add the cachets after-the-fact. "Quicker Return on Investment."

There is obviously a demand for these covers with Hand-Drawn, and computer generated cachets. Someone must be buying them or why would people continue to generate them? Whether these are tomorrow's Karl Lewis or Crosby Cachets is the subject of debate.

Food for thought. The Krispy Kremes sound good about now!


greg ciesielski Friday, June 20, 2008 at 0:18:22     65.184.47.158
Larry - I think the USN needs to watch their use of words. For the Kitty Hawk and George Washington to "turn over" in San Diego just doesn't sound right. Boats shouldn't be doing that, it's an aviation thing.
greg ciesielski Friday, June 20, 2008 at 0:16:0     65.184.47.158
Don - Photo cachets are just that, photos applied as a cachets or part thereof. I fully understand what are called photo cachets now because the cachet came from a photo source. However, they are still computer generated cachets.
Dennis Brophy Thursday, June 19, 2008 at 22:38:14     64.136.27.226
Larry - Re the visit and chat, Krispy Kreme donuts and coffee always works for me. Roach Coach on the pier.
Brof
Donald R. Tjossem Thursday, June 19, 2008 at 18:57:1     207.118.27.41
This Day in Naval History - June 20

From the Navy News Service

1813 - Fifteen U.S. gunboats engage three British ships in Hampton Roads, Va.

1815 - Trials of Fulton I, built by Robert Fulton, are completed in New York. This ship would become the Navy's first steam-driven warship.

1898 - U.S. forces occupied Guam, which became first colony of United States in the Pacific.

1913 - First fatal accident in naval aviation, Ensign W. D. Billingsley killed at Annapolis, Md.

1934 - Commander in Chief, Asiatic Fleet Adm. Frank Upham reports to Chief of Naval Operations that based on analyses of Japanese radio traffic, "Any attack by (Japan) would be made without previous declaration of war or intentional warning."

1944 - Battle of Philippine Sea ends with Japanese losing two aircraft carriers and hundreds of aircraft.


lbbrennan Thursday, June 19, 2008 at 18:25:22     38.117.188.10
The end of one of the younger Pearl Harbor survivors.

Former Sailor Interred at USS Utah Memorial

FORD ISLAND, Hawaii (NNS) -- Pearl Harbor survivor and former crew member of USS Utah (AG-16) had his ashes returned to his former ship during an internment ceremony held at the ship's memorial on Ford Island, Naval Station Pearl Harbor, June 11.

Petty Officer 1st Class Jimmy Oberto's ashes were taken by National Park Service divers and one Navy diver who placed the remains inside the sunken ship to rest with his lost shipmates.

Oberto is the seventh crew member of the Utah to have his ashes interred inside the ship.

Oberto's family members flew to Hawaii from Arizona to fulfill his last request. In attendance were his children, grandchildren, and great-grandchildren.

"His family made it all possible," said retired Master Chief Yeoman Jim Taylor, liaison for the Pearl Harbor Survivors Association. "The Navy performed, as its usual outstanding self rendering honors to him, along with the National Park Service divers and the Navy diver."

"He gave me all the information before he passed away and said that after he was gone, I was to follow through and complete this for him," said Oberto's daughter, Leean O' Malley.

"It's just a big deal," said Oberto's grandson, Raymond O' Malley. "It's something he asked me to participate in and do, which is why I received his flag here today. It's just a very big deal to me."

Oberto who was getting ready to go on liberty so that he could attend a music festival, found himself instead on his ship when it was attacked by the Japanese on Dec. 7, 1941.

"He scrambled to safety to the main deck from the third deck and somehow managed to get off the ship," said Taylor. "He ended up sliding across the side and the bottom of the ship, which ended up cutting him pretty badly because of the barnacles on the side of the ship."
Oberto then swam to shore, mostly underwater to avoid strafing bullets from the Japanese aircraft, according to Taylor. When Oberto reached Ford Island he ran to safety and was placed on another ship where his injuries were cared for.

"He witnessed tragedy with dead bodies all over the place and even dead bodies being towed," said Taylor. "It was something he remembered all his life."

Oberto served four and a half years in the Navy in which he was crew member on both the Utah and Brooklyn-class light-cruiser, USS Honolulu (CL-48).

He survived the Japanese attack on his ship at Pearl Harbor and was a veteran of thirteen naval battles across the Pacific Theater.

After the Navy, Oberto saw his time spent as a disc jockey, a musician in the Chicago Orchestra, a cook, and a music teacher.

He passed away April 16, 2007, at the age of 85.


lbbrennan Thursday, June 19, 2008 at 18:22:54     38.117.188.10
Dave, It isn't how high you are but how low you can go before impacting earth or the deep blue.

Brof, precisely. I'm so old that I now have three of them. Larry


lbbrennan Thursday, June 19, 2008 at 18:22:9     38.117.188.10
KITTY HAWK AND GEORGE WASHINGTON TO TURN OVER IN SAN DIEGO IN AUGUST
PEARL HARBOR (NNS) -- The USS Kitty Hawk (CV 63) and USS George Washington (CVN 73) turnover originally planned for early June in Pearl Harbor will now take place in San Diego in August as a result of the fire that occurred aboard George Washington on May 22.

Kitty Hawk will then proceed to Bremerton, Wash., to complete her decommissioning on schedule. George Washington's schedule has not yet been determined.

The Chief of Naval Operations has directed a Manual of the Judge Advocate General investigation headed by the Commander, U.S. Pacific Fleet, headquartered in Pearl Harbor, to determine the cause of the fire. Additionally, the Navy is conducting a Safety Investigation Board by the Naval Safety Center, Norfolk. The Navy is accumulating lessons learned on this incident to be shared with the fleet.

The U.S. Navy assessment of the mechanical, electrical, electronic and structural systems affected by the May 22 fire aboard George Washington is substantially complete. Damage to George Washington is primarily electrical in nature with limited structural and mechanical associated damage. Fire and heat affected electrical cabling and components in approximately 80 spaces of the more than 3,800 spaces on George Washington.

The repair work is being performed by U.S. Navy Shipyards and by private-sector shipyards in the San Diego area. An estimated completion date, as well as an estimated timeframe for George Washington's arrival in Japan, has yet to be determined.

The Navy is working with crewmembers from USS Kitty Hawk and USS George Washington and their families to minimize the impact of these events. This is the Pacific Fleet's top personnel priority.


Dave Kent Thursday, June 19, 2008 at 16:25:34     68.9.251.205
Hi, Mike! So nice to meet you in Portland. I'm finally back home after sitting at the Portland airport for three hours waiting for them to find a new altimeter for the plane. Always nice to know how high you are.
Duane Wilson Thursday, June 19, 2008 at 14:45:10     204.124.92.254
Hello Boys!
Mike Brock Thursday, June 19, 2008 at 14:39:47     67.168.232.131
Hi Dave...are you back home?
esink Thursday, June 19, 2008 at 14:0:42     68.36.56.123
LOG received last Saturday forwarded from Chester County PA to new address in New Cumberland near Harrisburg...Finally on-line and up-and-running today for first time after some installation problems.
Dennis Brophy Thursday, June 19, 2008 at 13:44:53     67.142.130.28
Larry - That would be the "Gedunk' award if memory serves.
Brof
Donald R. Tjossem Thursday, June 19, 2008 at 13:24:59     207.118.27.41
Greg,
I agree.

What do you think of computer cachets that are called photo cachets on eBay?? I see this quite a bit. To me a "photo cachet" is a Crosby, Weigand or some other "real photo" and not a computer generated picture.


greg ciesielski Thursday, June 19, 2008 at 11:19:39     65.184.47.158
morning Phil!
greg ciesielski Thursday, June 19, 2008 at 11:19:3     65.184.47.158
Don - I think add-ons are ok if the cachet is clearly marked but hopefully it is created in good taste and keeping in the same timeframe.
greg ciesielski Thursday, June 19, 2008 at 11:16:29     65.184.47.158
Larry - No National Defense medal for me. I have the one you cannot have. The USMC Good Conduct medal, otherwise known as the "Good Cookie" or "Never Been Caught" medal.
Donald R. Tjossem Thursday, June 19, 2008 at 10:31:57     207.118.27.41
Larry,
We could always discuss the ethics and perameters of acceptable "add on cachets." That seems to bring folks out of the wood-work.

It is my belief that add-on cachets should be clearly marked and should only be added on during the era it was postmarked.
In other words it is disrespectful and damaging to our hobby if people add on a computer or hand drawn cachet in 2008 to a cover cancelled in 1948.


Steve Shay Thursday, June 19, 2008 at 10:29:32     65.213.44.2
Ward Boston, probed attack on USS Liberty
By Chelsea J. Carter
Associated Press

SAN DIEGO - Ward Boston, a former Navy attorney who helped investigate the 1967 Israeli attack on the USS Liberty that killed 34 crewmen and years later said President Lyndon Johnson ordered that the assault be ruled an accident, has died. He was 84.

Full article can be found at:
http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_9632566?source=rss


lbbrennan Thursday, June 19, 2008 at 9:20:41     206.53.144.21
Brof. National defense service medal.
lbbrennan Thursday, June 19, 2008 at 9:19:34     206.53.144.21
Brof. Good morning larry

What can we do to get people to visit and chat here. It is getting quiet and lonely.


Dennis Brophy Thursday, June 19, 2008 at 9:18:45     64.136.27.226
Larry Thanks for the info on free franking. I dont recall a cold war medal. USN 67-73
Brof

lbbrennan Wednesday, June 18, 2008 at 23:10:20     216.9.250.120
Greg. We all have that one. Congratulations, shipmate. Larry
greg ciesielski Wednesday, June 18, 2008 at 22:43:42     65.184.47.158
Larry, Mini-medals can also be worn on regular suit coats during certain events. Being a Cold War vet, I have one medal...
lbbrennan Wednesday, June 18, 2008 at 21:27:27     216.9.250.114
Dave you can buy them too at the exchanges. I've used the navy cross as part of some handmade cachets. I think Roger Wentworth has used medals in some of his hand painted covers. Pierced mermaids? Larry

PS small medals on tuxedos are ok


Dave Kent Wednesday, June 18, 2008 at 20:47:47     68.9.251.205
I never actually got any of the medals I was awarded. I know I could ask for them now, but what would I do with them?
lbbrennan Wednesday, June 18, 2008 at 20:39:9     216.9.250.94
Bill contact Stewart milstein at the sales circuit. Brooklyn address. See log. Larry
lbbrennan Wednesday, June 18, 2008 at 20:37:40     216.9.250.100
DoD AWARD MODIFICATIONS: The Department of Defense recently announced that The Institute of Heraldry (TIOH) will remove the word 'medal' from four campaign and service medals in order to align their designs with heraldic protocols.

The word 'medal' will be removed from the Global War on Terrorism Expeditionary Medal, Global War on Terrorism Service Medal, Korea Defense Service Medal and Armed Forces Service Medal. In addition, TIOH will resize eight campaign and service medals that were initially designed one-eighth of an inch larger in diameter than required by specification.

The larger medals will be gradually replaced over the next several years as current stock levels are depleted. These medals will not be made obsolete and will remain authorized decorations.

In addition, the applicable miniature medals will also be re-sized from eleven-sixteenths of an inch diameter to five-eighths of an inch. The medals being resized are the: Kosovo Campaign Medal, Afghanistan Campaign Medal, Iraq Campaign Medal, Global War on Terrorism Expeditionary Medal, Global War on Terrorism Service Medal, Korea Defense Service Medal, Armed Forces Service Medal and the Military Outstanding Volunteer Service Medal.

Historically, campaign and service medal pendants are 1 1/4 inches in diameter; the only exceptions are the two victory medals commemorating the end of World War I and World War II; these medals were designed at 1 13/32 inches in diameter in order to enhance their heraldic stature given the magnitude of the two world wars. Questions may be directed to Army Public Affairs at (703) 692-2000. [Source: DoD Release, 23 May 08]

bill ruggiero Wednesday, June 18, 2008 at 20:36:31     4.238.91.195
Steve, I am astounded to see so many USS Trenton's on EBay. Yes the 1939 cover would do but I had a problem with EBAy when I bought a DVD. and found navigating EBAY too tedious. I went around and around trying to get a purchase. I will wait for one to pop up in an auction in the newsletter. If EBAY has that many I'll wait. I am glad the auctions give me oppportunity. Thanks. What I will do however if time allows me I will try again to make headway on EBAY
tkaczkowski Wednesday, June 18, 2008 at 20:20:11     67.172.57.2
Scratch both LCC's for GWF covers..USS MOUNT WHITNEY returned the covers with their regular cancel but it was very good but USS BLUE RIDGE used the GWF cancel but they were trash. I have 107 covers out and return hasn't been all that great so far. All carries returned but Truman and Reagan.
Don Tjossem Wednesday, June 18, 2008 at 19:3:57     64.91.49.4
This Day in Naval History - June 19

From the Navy News Service

1864 - USS Kearsarge sinks Confederate raider Alabama off France.

1944 - Battle of the Philippine Sea begins ("The Marianas Turkey Shoot").

1948 - Chief of Naval Operations assigns three destroyers to U.N. mediator for the Palestine truce.



lbbrennan Wednesday, June 18, 2008 at 18:16:12     38.117.188.10
Another opportunity for covers.

Carl Vinson Engineers Restoring Vital Services

NEWPORT NEWS, Va. (NNS) -- Sailors assigned to the Engineering Department aboard USS Carl Vinson (CVN 70) are working hard this June to restore critical heating equipment and services in preparation for the aircraft carrier's crew move aboard (CMA) evolution scheduled for later this summer.

A special task force of Sailors, known as the steam and heat team, are repairing and bringing back on line water heaters, pre-heaters, and convention heaters, which are critical to the operation of facilities such as the ship's galleys, ship's laundry, heads, and showers on board. This work will have a big impact on quality-of-life for Sailors moving on the ship during CMA.

"Our work on ship's service water heaters is essential for crew move aboard," said Machinist's Mate 1st Class Marc Landry, a member of Carl Vinson's Engineering Department. "By ensuring all of the systems are maintained and in prime working condition, we are also ensuring that Sailors will have the highest quality of life possible once they start living aboard this ship."

To ensure facilities are working properly, Carl Vinson's engineers inspect and repair shipboard equipment regularly. Sailors assigned to Carl Vinson's steam and heat team explained that preventive maintenance and procedural compliance are equally important in the effort to restore key services, and keep them up and running for the long-term.


lbbrennan Wednesday, June 18, 2008 at 18:14:40     38.117.188.10
My roomate was one of the surgeons in BOXER for this cruise.
Continuing Promise Completes Work in Peru, Boxer Heading Home

BARRANCA, Peru (NNS) -- Peruvian officials bid farewell to USS Boxer (LHD 4), June 15, during a closing ceremony in the town of Barranca, marking the end of the Pacific phase of Continuing Promise (CP) 2008.

CP is a collaborative effort between the United States and partner militaries, non-governmental organizations (NGO) and partner-nation support organizations to build strong partnerships that can be called upon in the event of a regional situation requiring cooperative solutions.

During the six-day operation in Peru, Boxer's embarked military units worked side-by-side with partner-nation military and civilian professionals to provide medical, dental, optometry and veterinary care along with renovation work at two schools.

"CP has highlighted the importance and value of providing assistance and training to our friends and neighbors in Latin America," said Mission Commander for CP, Capt. Peter K. Dallman. "It also reflects and reinforces the strong friendship our two countries share."

Medical specialists from Boxer, Fleet Surgical Team (FST) 5 and the U.S. Public Health Service worked together with Peruvian medical professionals to conduct more than 4,000 dental exams and procedures, nearly 1,000 optometry exams in addition to giving out 900 pairs of eye glasses. The team also provided nearly 3,000 patients primary medical care and dispensed more than 11,000 medications at several sites in the area.

While anchored off the coast, FST 5 performed 22 surgeries on Peruvian citizens aboard Boxer.

"Overall there have been over 18,000 patient encounters here in Peru, and I can assure you that these numbers would not have been possible without strong support from you, our host nation counterparts, as you worked elbow-to-elbow with us," Dallman said while he addressed the Peruvian dignitaries.

Seabees assigned to Construction Battalion Maintenance Unit (CBMU) 303 and Navy Mobile Construction Battalion (NMCB) 5 teamed up to complete renovation projects at two schools. The work included major plumbing and electrical upgrades, roof replacement and replacing windows in addition to painting and landscaping.

"Our time here in Peru has been a very busy and very rewarding experience," Dallman added. "The work that has taken place here has laid the foundation for future cooperation between the United States and Peru."

Boxer's mission exemplifies the U.S. maritime strategy which emphasizes deploying forces to build confidence and trust among nations through collective maritime security efforts that focus on common threats and mutual interests.

Embarked units and organizations aboard Boxer for CP include Amphibious Squadron 5, FST 5, U.S. Public Health Service, Navy Seabee CBMU 303, Helicopter Mine Countermeasures Squadron 14, Marine Medium Helicopter Squadron 764, Tactical Air Control Squadron 11, Special Marine Air Ground Task Force 24, Helicopter Sea Combat Support Squadron 23, Assault Craft Unit 1, Fleet Survey Team, Maritime Civil Affairs Team 205 and Beach Master Unit 1.


lbbrennan Wednesday, June 18, 2008 at 10:14:48     38.117.188.10
Brof, USCG and all military and naval personnel had free mail priviliges anywhere. There was no combat zone limitation as in Korea. Vietnam or currently. Larry

PS I don't think New Jersey has been in a war zone since the Revolution with the exception of the Long Tom Explosion in WW I.


Steve Shay Wednesday, June 18, 2008 at 9:41:57     65.213.44.2
Bill, there are a 1939 and a 1940 Trenton cover on ebay for sale right now as Buy It Now items. Total cost for the 2 is around $10.
Dennis Brophy Tuesday, June 17, 2008 at 22:31:40     64.136.27.226
Larry B. The date is actually Oct 6 1943.
Brof
Dennis Brophy Tuesday, June 17, 2008 at 22:24:31     64.136.27.226
Glenn, Congratulations! Log has not reached Central SC yet.
Brof
bill rugggiero Tuesday, June 17, 2008 at 21:35:33     4.238.97.117
Sorry my last name has two g's not three
bill rugggiero Tuesday, June 17, 2008 at 21:32:36     4.238.97.117
Hello out there!

Are there any covers or postmarks to be had from the USS Trenton from 1938 to 1940. A man I know who served aboard the ship is 91 years old and it would be nice gift to give him If I could locate a cover.


Steve Shay Tuesday, June 17, 2008 at 20:36:32     12.72.192.2
Glenn, I got mine last week, Friday maybe. It's not often that California delivery beats Pennsylvania delivery!
Glenn Smith Tuesday, June 17, 2008 at 19:30:56     67.232.239.13
Finally...the LOG has reached "the end of the pipeline" in the Cumberland Valley of PA!
Donald R. Tjossem Tuesday, June 17, 2008 at 18:55:38     207.118.27.41
This Day in Naval History - June 18

From the Navy News Service

1812 - U.S. declares war on Great Britain for impressment of Sailors and interference with commerce.

1942 - First African-American officer, Bernard W. Robinson, commissioned in Naval Reserve.

1957 - Chief of Naval Operations approves ship characteristics of the Fleet Ballistic Missile submarine.



lbbrennan Tuesday, June 17, 2008 at 17:31:3     216.9.250.118
John. A great lifetime achievement award

Larry


lbbrennan Tuesday, June 17, 2008 at 17:30:4     216.9.250.117
Steve s. I want a tomato badly. Went to the dentist again this am. It will be a while before apples and corn.

Thanks the Noa is something we need to publicize and put in the postmark catalog

Running out early
Larry


Lyding Tuesday, June 17, 2008 at 15:9:21     69.140.90.224
Dan Dennis I also do the same. Perhaps a Free Life Membership for Hervey
Steve Shay Tuesday, June 17, 2008 at 14:51:24     65.213.44.2
Good catch on the Noa cover Larry.
Steve Shay Tuesday, June 17, 2008 at 14:48:12     65.213.44.2
Larry, you must smell my sandwich and apple. Good nose.
lbbrennan Tuesday, June 17, 2008 at 14:47:43     38.117.188.10
Steve S, got your emails yesterday, working on it now. Enjoy lunch. Thanks, Larry
lbbrennan Tuesday, June 17, 2008 at 14:46:57     38.117.188.10
Here's a cover on ebay marking the return of John Glenn with the Space Stamp postmarked on board the Recovery Ship, USS NOA (DD-841)the day of his mission. The USCS has publicized that NOA did not have the Mercury space stamp on board the day of the mission, since the issuance was "secret" in the USPO at that time. There are 11 bidders. No idea if the seller or the bidders know that the cover is quesionable but this is precisely the type of problem we have to uncover and publicize.

"Your bid is for a space cover in excellent condition. It's postmarked Feb 22. 1962 and commemorates the USS Noa, the recovery Ship for the first manned space flight. Theres an illustration of the ship, with the space capsule in the foreground. The cover says U.S.S. Noa, DD-841 / Recovery Ship for the First U.S. Man in Space. In smaller letters, under the picture : This commemorative cover was a part of the first mail dispatch from the destroyer U.S.S. NOA following recovery of U.S. astronaute Lt Col. John H. Glenn, Jr., USMC, and Mercury Space Capsule "Friendship Seven". It's is postmarked U.S.S. NOA (DD-841) and has a 4c Project Mercury commemorative stamp. Postage is 1.50"


lbbrennan Tuesday, June 17, 2008 at 13:40:18     38.117.188.10
George H.W. Bush Visits USS Ashland

By Mass Communication Specialist 3rd Class Mandy Hunsucker, Nassau Expeditionary Strike Group Public Affairs

RHODES, Greece (NNS) -- Former President George H.W. Bush visited the amphibious dock landing ship USS Ashland (LSD 48) to say thank you for the crew's service, June 15.

Bush and some of his family members were on vacation in Greece when they found out that Ashland would be visiting Rhodes, while the ship was returning from the Persian Gulf. Bush quickly adjusted his schedule and made a detour just to stop by and talk with the crew.

"I want you all to know it is a joy for us to see this ship, to be on board and be able to show the respect that we have for the Navy and those who serve there in," said Bush.

Bush presented eight awards and re-enlisted two Ashland Sailors during his visit.

"To be re-enlisted by former President Bush was an unbelievable experience," said Damage Controlman 1st Class (SW/AW) Tim Taylor. "I was extremely honored to have this opportunity. It's definitely a once in a life time experience."

"It was very kind of former President Bush and his family to take time out of their vacation to watch the ship moor and then come on board to talk to the crew and thank them for their service," said Cmdr. Jeffrey Ward, Ashland's commanding officer. "It meant a lot to the crew to be able to talk to Mr. and Mrs. Bush, shake hands, and pose for pictures. It was a great start to our visit to Rhodes, and it is a day the Sailors will never forget."

After the ceremony, Bush and his wife, former First Lady Barbara Bush, sat down with some Sailors and enjoyed refreshments while the rest of his family toured the ship.

"Mr. Bush was very down to earth and he had a great sense of humor. He joked with us and his wife made us all laugh," said Culinary Specialist 3rd Class Jivette Taylor. "It was really neat that he came to the Ashland. It meant a lot to the crew."

At the conclusion of the family's visit, Mr. and Mrs. Bush posed with numerous Sailors and Mr. Bush gave out several prized autographs.

"It was an honor to have the former President of the United States visit our ship and address the crew," said Senior Chief Hospital Corpsman (SW/FMF) Chris Ebert, who got his pocket copy of the U.S. Constitution signed by Bush. "It really reaffirms our mission as a just cause, and it boosted the spirit of our Sailors."

Ashland is part of the Nassau Expeditionary Strike Group, currently operating in the Navy's 6th Fleet area of responsibility to support maritime security operations and theater security cooperation efforts.


lbbrennan Tuesday, June 17, 2008 at 13:39:10     38.117.188.10
Brof, USCG but the date is early. Larry
Dennis Brophy Tuesday, June 17, 2008 at 13:14:11     64.136.27.226
I picked up a cover recently with "free" franking canceled at Tuckerton, NJ. Oct 6, 1941
The corner is addressed at Little Egg Lifeboat Station Tuckerton NJ. My Question is Free? franking from NJ ?
Brof
Dennis Brophy Tuesday, June 17, 2008 at 13:7:1     64.136.27.226
Dan, I do the same.
Dan Goodwin Tuesday, June 17, 2008 at 8:28:44     74.69.249.233
When I send covers for Hervey to postmark I always tell him to keep one for himself. All my covers are stamped and cacheted before post marking. This is my small way of thanking him.
lbbrennan Tuesday, June 17, 2008 at 8:0:38     216.9.250.34
In the next KARCHER fraud article you will see illustrations of a rubber stamp used by some USCS members on flk covers
Dave Kent Monday, June 16, 2008 at 23:50:25     70.88.171.189
For those who don't know, Hervey in Norfolk is already a USCS member.
greg ciesielski Monday, June 16, 2008 at 23:33:26     65.184.47.158
Mike K. - Even better than writing on the front is to put it through a printer and actually print FAKE or FAUX on it. That way there is no confusion.
Mike Kaup Monday, June 16, 2008 at 22:49:59     24.19.67.190
The Karcher article was excellent however it might be better to write on the front of the cover that it is a fake rather than the reverse, in order prevent sellers from obliterating the markings on the reverse and reselling them as genuine. While the markings on the front could also be obliterated it would make the cover much less desireable.
lbbrennan Monday, June 16, 2008 at 22:47:18     216.9.250.83
Certainly we should recognize hervey and make sure his bosses are informed. Some form of membership might be in order. The log is a free send by e mail. We need to do more for USPS and USN clerks who help us. It helps to say thanks. Larry
Mike Kaup Monday, June 16, 2008 at 22:42:25     24.19.67.190
CCJake, I think a lot of covers that go for what is an excessive price to a collector is often a cover that is being impulse purchased by someone who has a relative that served on that particular vessel and has no real idea of the rarity or value.
Mike Kaup Monday, June 16, 2008 at 22:29:26     24.19.67.190
Hi Richard Hoffner,what exactly does a "single mission unit " mean regarding a ship?
Thanks, Mike
Dan Goodwin Monday, June 16, 2008 at 21:53:3     74.69.249.233
Went to two flea markets Sunday. Didn't find a thing remotely related to stamps or covers. Did buy my wife an antique pancake dish for $50 (cat. value is $175)
Rich Hoffner Monday, June 16, 2008 at 20:11:23     68.80.47.48
More snooping on the Internet reveals the USCGC SEA DEVIL is a single mission unit, assigend to USCG MFPU Bangor, located at Naval Undersea Warfare Center, Keyport WA
tkaczkowski Monday, June 16, 2008 at 20:2:36     67.172.57.2
Received GWF covers today from USS BONHOMME RICHARD LHD 6 and USS MESA VERDE LPD 19 both were very good cancels.
Rich Hoffner Monday, June 16, 2008 at 19:50:40     68.80.47.48
Dennis. This would have to go to the Board of Directors. Recent history prevents "honorary" membership, so I'm not sure what the board would do if requested.
Rich Hoffner Monday, June 16, 2008 at 19:48:55     68.80.47.48
Information from CoverAgent that USCGC SEA Devil WPB-87368 will hold her Official Commissioning Ceremony on June 20 at Bangor WA. An Internet check reveals cutters home port address is Keyport WA 98345. Question now is will the ceremony be at Bangor WA or Keyport WA? I am betting on Keyport.
Dennis Brophy Monday, June 16, 2008 at 15:18:29     67.142.130.22
Rich H. and Larry B. re:Hervey Trimmier, Perhaps some type of extended membership?
Brof
Don Tjossem Monday, June 16, 2008 at 15:13:41     207.118.27.83
Rich,
When I am selling on eBay I always do the same as you do and tell the person to put in thier best bid. I would never end one early as I'm always concerned I'm missing something and whatever I'm selling may be worth far more than I think it is. :) It happens!!
Rich Hoffner Monday, June 16, 2008 at 11:46:12     68.80.47.48
Ola, Marine!
Rich Hoffner Monday, June 16, 2008 at 11:45:41     68.80.47.48
I think the bids of the BB WASHINGTON cover show the beauty of eBay. When you list an item you never know where the bidding will go. I'm seeing some prospective bidders contacting the seller, trying to get items removed and sell for their offer, since they know sometimes items skyrocket with no reason whatsoever. I am at times also asked to change an item to "Buy it Now". I decline such queries and tell them to just bid on the item if they want it. I wonder how many others have this happen and how they handle it?
greg ciesielski Monday, June 16, 2008 at 11:39:59     65.184.47.158
Hi Rich!
Rich Hoffner Monday, June 16, 2008 at 11:37:35     68.80.47.48
Larry, USCS did present Hervey with a certificate a couple of years ago for doing what he does all the time with our covers. Wondeing what more we could do, as he certainly deserves any sort of BZ we can give him.
greg ciesielski Monday, June 16, 2008 at 0:21:37     65.184.47.158
Don, USS North Carolina BB-55 covers are hot potatoes at this time too. It all depends who collects what.
CCJake Sunday, June 15, 2008 at 21:58:51     24.60.218.233
Don Tjossem

Just checked out your Washington Cover, the second high bidder at $65.75 is the same bidder who was bidding against me for the VF cover, like I said think it is the cachet maker they want, more than the ship.


CCJake Sunday, June 15, 2008 at 21:49:29     24.60.218.233
Don Tjossem

I picked up a Valley Forge Commissioning cover done by Staehle, cachet was of Halsey & Nimitz, last year for $4.50 on E-Bay, the first of this month I bid on another Staehle Commissioning cover from the VF with a different cachet, go out of the bidding when it hit $12.00, seems Staehle cachets are getting some high bidding lately??
MHO is it is the Cachet maker rather than the ship that these high bidders are going after, at least what I've seen on E-Bay it appears that way??


Stewart B. Milstein Sunday, June 15, 2008 at 19:48:23     12.75.162.59
All hands - the Sales Citrcuit needs circuits - quality material will sell.
Stewart B. Milstein Sunday, June 15, 2008 at 19:46:29     12.75.162.59
Hi Don
Donald R. Tjossem Sunday, June 15, 2008 at 19:45:59     207.118.52.246
Hi Stewart!
Donald R. Tjossem Sunday, June 15, 2008 at 19:45:45     207.118.52.246
This Day in Naval History - June 16

From the Navy News Service

1898 - U.S. squadron bombards Santiago, Cuba.

1965 - Navy Department schedules reactivation of hospital ship Repose (AH 16), first hospital ship activated for Vietnam conflict.


Steve Shay Sunday, June 15, 2008 at 17:14:12     12.72.193.144
Don, my guess is that some non cover collectors who collect USS Washington items thought it was something special. Not a $66 cover in my book.
Donald R. Tjossem Sunday, June 15, 2008 at 16:42:23     207.118.52.246
BB56 COMMISSION MAY 1941 STAEHLE CACHET
Donald R. Tjossem Sunday, June 15, 2008 at 16:39:31     207.118.52.246
BB
lbbrennan Sunday, June 15, 2008 at 15:8:44     216.9.250.27
Don which Washington. BB or ACR? Not able to see ebay at this moment. Larry
lbbrennan Sunday, June 15, 2008 at 15:6:54     216.9.250.27
Dave

Some Karcher free Franks were sent thru the mail. In my July log article my figure one will be a fraudulent Karcher free frank not from a war zone but with a 6 cent postage due rubber stamp from wedderburn.

Larry


Donald R. Tjossem Sunday, June 15, 2008 at 13:51:28     207.118.52.246
Can aybody tell me what makes the USS Washington cover on eBay a $66.00+ cover?? It is item number 280234635749. (No, I will not be bidding on it.)
Steve Shay Sunday, June 15, 2008 at 11:53:20     12.72.192.219
Jake, I'd agree, that makes it a fraudulent cover.
CCJake Sunday, June 15, 2008 at 2:46:0     24.60.218.233
Larry B.
As for the VF cover, my info says that "Free" franking is only legit when applied by Navy Mail Clerk, or possibly the sender while a crewmember of the ship, while that ship is within 60 miles of a combat zone. At least this is way it was during the Korean War Era
Believe that regulation was still in effect for the Viet Nam War as well??
So if a cachet maker, or cover sponsor applys "Free" franking to the cover, wouldn't it be concidered a fraudulent cover, no matter if the cancel date matches the ship being in a combat Zone??
greg ciesielski Sunday, June 15, 2008 at 0:7:52     65.184.47.158
Happy Father's Day!!
Mike Brock Saturday, June 14, 2008 at 22:35:20     67.168.232.131
Dave...it good to see you at the stamp show in Clackamas, Oregon on Friday.

Today I was in Astoria, Oregon to see the USCGC EAGLE for the first time. Beautiful ship...great tour. Best part was no waiting in line to board. The USCGC STEADFAST WMEC-623 was also open for tours at the same pier, along with the Lightship COLUMBIA.


tkaczkowski Saturday, June 14, 2008 at 21:38:52     67.172.57.2
Hello Phil...
Steve Shay Saturday, June 14, 2008 at 21:33:0     12.72.133.92
A belated Happy Flag Day.
Dave Kent Saturday, June 14, 2008 at 21:10:40     70.88.171.189
So far as we can tell, all (or almost all) Karcher Vietnam "free" covers were returned to him under separate cover, and not directly through the mail. I'm assuming that the mail clerks saw them as mere souvenirs and not real mail. That means that they knew the frank was not valid, but, after all, it wasn't a real piece of mail, so what harm is done? The answer is that, years later, people have no way of knowing that it isn't real mail, and that's why they are fraudulent-- also the reason for this series of articles.
CCJake Saturday, June 14, 2008 at 19:1:35     24.60.218.233
Hi Larry B.

Have no doubt about the cancel being legit, as have a few other VF covers from that time frame to compare the cancel with. Why the cover is questionable is the franking of that cover is done by Fred, not a NAvy Mail Clerk.


lbbrennan Saturday, June 14, 2008 at 13:32:3     216.9.250.117
Hervey deserves an individual award. Let's make it happen.

KARCHER covers with type 7s may be legit not fake postmarks but all locations are questionable. If VF was at Da nang free mail was authorized?

Stand by for more about KARCHER frauds and fakes in July log.


tkaczkowski Saturday, June 14, 2008 at 13:5:0     67.172.57.2
Received USS BATAAN LHD 5 - GWF. Excellent strike but used as a cachet rather than a cancel. The Bataan regular cancel was used to cancel the cover and also was excellent.
Duane Wilson Saturday, June 14, 2008 at 12:43:56     71.142.129.2
I will second Dennis' nomination of Hervey for a USCS Citation!
Dennis Brophy Saturday, June 14, 2008 at 10:32:42     64.136.27.226
I recieved my USS ENTERPRISE,USS NORFOLK,USS SCORPION AND GLOMAR EXPLORER Cancels today. Excellent strikes as always from Norfolk. Hervey needs to be awarded a USCS Presidential Unit Citation.
Brof
greg ciesielski Friday, June 13, 2008 at 23:18:41     65.184.47.158
Don, Re - Your 1985 Navy news posting about Stetham receiving a Bronze Star. Well he also got a ship, DDG-63.
CCJake Friday, June 13, 2008 at 23:12:5     24.60.218.233
LOG arrived here on the Cape this afternoon, another GREAT Issues by Richard and his staff.

Very good article on Fred Karcher's fake covers by Capt. Bob Rawlins.
I have a good number of Karcher covers and a