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Online Chat Archives – November – December, 2017


  • Dave Kent (13 Dec 2017 10:28pm EST) : If you are looking for a good word processing program, I recommend WordPerfect. I’ve used various versions for years and have been pleased with them. None of the problem you get with Microsoft Weird. Although it has its own document format, it can also save documents in a wide range of other formats.The same company has a program called Corel Presentations which I prefer over PowerPoint. Very easy to use.
  • Rich Hoffner (12 Dec 2017 2:13pm EST) : Had an email from “the caves” asking if collectors had received covers from Olympia WA. Apparently some had questioned where their covers were. I responded that yes the covers were being returned but that the postmark was extremely small. It appears to me that the Olympia WA post office used the size that was published in the Postal Bulletin to produce the cancel.
  • Rich Hoffner (12 Dec 2017 2:11pm EST) : Wolfgang and I are working on pictorials for Commissioning of USS COLODADO SSN 788 and USS RALPH JOHNSON DDG 115. If I can confirm the daye we will also try to do USCGC JOSEPH GERCZEK WPC 1126.
  • Rich Hoffner (12 Dec 2017 2:08pm EST) : Snow finally gone here. Sloppy day with mud and dreary skies today in the Indian Valley of SE PA.
  • Rich Hoffner (10 Dec 2017 8:49pm EST) : Just posted two CBS News cachets and a poster with their label for the Statue of Liberty Celebration 07-04-86 in New York on our Facebook site. Does anyone else have any of these covers or know who did them?
  • Rich Hoffner (10 Dec 2017 7:57pm EST) : Just came across a box of naval covers from the Arrington collection, no cachets on them yet. Budd had set aside many un-cacheted covers with a plan to hand draw his cachets on them. One group of covers is from the USS SQUALUS SS-192 search and recovery ships. Most indicate info in the killer bars. Some planning will be necessary to create respectful cachets for them.
  • Rich Hoffner (10 Dec 2017 3:07pm EST) : So now I have a new PC sitting in a box. With Windows 10 operating system, and trepidation about setting it up. Will I know how to use it? I have been using Microsoft programs like Windows Vista and Windows XP for so many years, it seems like it will be daunting to make the change? Also need to find a WORD program that will work on it. Not interested in “leasing” Microsoft Word from them by the year. Must be a program I can purchase and not pay a yearly fee.
  • Rich Hoffner (10 Dec 2017 3:03pm EST) : Did the snow in Philly nix NAVY?
  • John Young (07 Dec 2017 3:13pm EST) : Remember Pearl Harbor- fly the flag at half mast.
  • Don Tjossem (07 Dec 2017 3:28am EST) : Read all about the USS DALLAS “Inactivation Ceremony” below:


  • Rich Hoffner (05 Dec 2017 2:04pm EST) : Interesting that a “Decommissioning Ceremony” was held for DALLAS SSN 700 today in Silverdale. But what was the ceremony really? The boat is in Bremerton. Her deactivation was last June 16. Her decommissioning is tentatively scheduled for April 2018.
  • guest_5960 (04 Dec 2017 10:32pm EST) : Paper Log arrived in Columbus. Always sad to see a member expelled.
  • John Young (04 Dec 2017 5:01pm EST) : MY ERROR: NEW JERSEY CHAPTER MEETING IS WEDNESDAY< 12/6/17


  • Rich Hoffner (04 Dec 2017 3:23pm EST) : Recently acquired a USCG uniform owned by the late Walt Grabowy. Might wear it to the NJ meeting if it fits. If you were thinking of going, this may be a site you won’t forget. Now to see if it fits! ?
  • Rich Hoffner (04 Dec 2017 3:19pm EST) : Psst… I’ll be bringing some beer coasters to the NJ Chapter meeting for our Rockland County Coastie who gave up covers to collect them.
  • RIch Hoffner (04 Dec 2017 3:17pm EST) : Somehow my copy of the postmark catalog was an older version, but others did get the correct version, the one with a striped first page and illustrations throughout the catalog pages in color. Mine had none of that. Thanks Greg C for forwarding the correct version.

    My first class Log arrived a day after Peggy’s Periodical Log. Perhaps the mailing envelopes or label should be marked FIRST CLASS MAIL, something is not right that first class is not getting here first.

  • RIch Hoffner (04 Dec 2017 3:12pm EST) : John Young, is it 12-5? Wednesday is 12-6. I will go on the 6th. Several Quakers will accompany me on the journey to the State of North Jersey.
  • John Young (03 Dec 2017 5:17am EST) : Ahoy Mates,
    Hard copy of December’s USCS Log came in Saturday’s mail

    Looking forward to Wednesday’s New Jersey Chapter meeting, 12/5/17 at
    Phil Schreiber’s apartment (7:30 PM)
    123 South Adelaide, Highland Park, NJ

    Should be a good time. Need a cover fix before the holidays.

  • john macco (02 Dec 2017 8:17pm EST) : I highly recommend everybody get the Reference Collection flash drive.The information contained on it is very informative.
  • Thad W. Kaczkowski (28 Nov 2017 8:11pm EST) : Okay got it..
  • Thad W. Kaczkowski (28 Nov 2017 7:17pm EST) : Anyone else having difficulty opening December e-Log? Catalog opened just fine.
  • BMCM JONES 3933 (28 Nov 2017 1:06pm EST) : I have just emailed 300+ copies of the December eLOG to members who requested the service.

    eLOG was mailed early as I am leaving for Panama Canal cruise Wednesday.

    Also sent was the pdf file with the 2017 Update to the USCS Postmark Catalog.

    The pdf version is free to members who had valid emails to receive the file.

    Paper copy ordering instructions and costs are found in the December LOG

    Richard Jones

  • esink (27 Nov 2017 7:42pm EST) : I buy the 25% cotton fiber envelopes from Karl and they process very nicely even when sent for USPS digital color-postmarked first day covers.
  • esink (27 Nov 2017 7:29pm EST) : Check out this conscientious handling of mail at Camp Lemonnier in Djibouti:
  • esink (26 Nov 2017 3:45pm EST) : Nicely processed FREE frank received yesterday from USS AMERICA LHA 6 with handwritten corner card, ship cachet and clear type ? cancel dtd 26 OCT 2017.
  • john macco (24 Nov 2017 8:40am EST) : I plan to make a mailing in January using the list published in January Log to see what I get back in response. I will document my returns to Greg C. What I will do is send a sase with each request to avoid overcancels.
  • john macco (24 Nov 2017 8:34am EST) : I fully suggest and recommend getting your envelopes from Karl Zurn as I ordered some from him and received my order in 3 days. I actually ordered them on Sunday and received them on Wednesday.
  • Rich Hoffner (23 Nov 2017 2:53pm EST) : Phil. I still have not figured out the “hand” problem. I guess it is sort of like giving a collector the finger? A mail clerk certainly knows what is in the envelope and it seems some take delight in giving us the “hand”. In the past two years or so, all APO, FPO and DPO mail goes through a facility in or near Chicago to determine if it is deliverable to the addressee and correctly addressed. It could be, but if it is it’s not 100% working, to eliminate mail that is not sent to an actual person. Since so much of our mail does get through without an actual persons name on it, I don’t think it happens there. Also I am not sure if the facility I mentioned is part of MPSA or DOD. I don’t think it is a USPS facility. If anyone knows, let us all know.
  • Rich Hoffner (23 Nov 2017 2:42pm EST) : Oh, and while away I did keep an eye out for well laid out beer coasters for someone I know who is switching from covers to coasters.
  • Rich Hoffner (23 Nov 2017 2:41pm EST) : On return from two weeks away from my mail, I found a news clip on a Simi Valley native son who is now XO of USS Washington. Mailed at Santa Barbara CA on 9 Nov 2017. But unknown who sent it to me. If you sent it, thanks, very interesting reading and I’ll pass it on.
  • Rich Hoffner (23 Nov 2017 2:38pm EST) : HAPPY THANKSGIVING to my USCS Family!
  • Rich Hoffner (23 Nov 2017 2:37pm EST) : Yes, Karl Zurn is one and the same as those envelopes on the website store.
  • Jimmy Jordan (23 Nov 2017 12:41pm EST) : Anyone know if the #63/4 envelopes sold by the USCS website store are the same as the ones sold by Karl Zurn? Is the store listing just out of date? Big difference in price.
  • esink (23 Nov 2017 12:18pm EST) : Happy Thanksgiving to all the USCS members and your families!
  • esink (22 Nov 2017 5:33pm EST) : With all the electronic means to communicate quicker from anywhere including navy ships, the sad decline of the USPS including post offices on board ships is becoming a reality…
  • Phil Schreiber 9110 (22 Nov 2017 3:08pm EST) : Re your remarks about the day coming when the navy no longer needs postal clerks. It’s here! I just got the word. My mail to a navy postal clerk was just returned to me with the Pointing Finger “Return to Sender” red stamper with the box checked for reason : Addresse Unknown. Tell the navy that it’s ok because the day is also coming when we don’t need a Navy. (just ask the Air Force)
  • Rich Hoffner (22 Nov 2017 1:26pm EST) : While USCG is and has been telling congress for several years that they need funding for three heavy and three medium icebreakers, an independent study suggests that the USCG should go ahead with a buy of 4 heavy icebreakers saving 100 million over starting the cost for the first medium icebreaker. Looking back at how cautious the USCG is in proceeding forward with new construction, someone needs to step in and show them how you get more for less, not take handouts and make it go further. Navy needs to get involved and seriously assist the USCG tell congress in more stronger terms, what they really need. They have been too timid recently.
  • Rich Hoffner (22 Nov 2017 1:19pm EST) : In the mail that piled up while I was away, a USCS Cover Service cover for “First Day Use New Cachet” from USCGC JOHN McCORMICK WPC 1121. Nicely applied hand cancel from Ketchikan AK 99901 on 10-31-17.
  • Rich Hoffner (22 Nov 2017 12:22am EST) : As I opened a new checking account at a local FCU recently, I was caught by surprise when I was told the credit union office did not have tellers. They have ATM type computers both inside and at their drive up window. Sort of like the self-check out line at the supermarket. It has me thinking about our hobby. It is evolving. Shipboard post offices will also evolve. A day will come when a ship will not need a mail clerk. Enjoy what we have now but be open to collecting older covers when and if this happens.
  • Rich Hoffner (22 Nov 2017 12:15am EST) : USS LENAH H. SUTCLIFFE HIGBEE (DDG 123) Keel Laying Ceremony 11-14-17 by HII at Pascagoula MS. So, could this be the longest U S Navy ship name in history? How will they squeeze it into the ships crast or into a postmark? Guess it will appear as LENAH H S HIGBEE.

    From Wikipedia: Lenah H. Sutcliffe Higbee (May 18, 1874 – January 10, 1941) was a pioneering Canadian-born United States Navy chief nurse, who served as Superintendent of the U.S. Navy Nurse Corps during World War I. She is best known for being the first female recipient of the Navy Cross.

  • BMCM JONES 3933 (17 Nov 2017 12:16am EST) : Royal Navy’s new aircraft carrier HMS Queen Elizabeth is to be commissioned by the Queen in a ceremony on December 7, the UK defense ministry announced.

    UK’s new defense secretary Gavin Williams made the announcement as he visitedthe carrier on Thursday, while at sea, sailing on trials around the south coast of England.

    “In a world of intensifying global threats, this magnificent ship will be a leading force fighting to protect the values of the UK and our allies,” Williams said.

    “It’s an honour to visit her at sea, and to meet such a passionate crew. I’m sure Her Majesty will be similarly impressed at next month’s historic ceremony for the nation’s new flagship, which proudly bears her name.”

    The carrier is currently on sea trials and will return to her home port in Portsmouth for the formal commissioning ceremony.

  • guest_2530 (16 Nov 2017 5:10pm EST) : Dear Steve:
    Thank you very much for your kindness and promptly reply.I will try to contact any of the members you´ve mentioned close to Chicago.I will send donation to Lloyd in opportunity of my US visit or from Argentina.Thanks again and hope to visit you at San Francisco.Kindest regards.
  • guest_2530 (16 Nov 2017 5:10pm EST) : Dear Phil:
    Many thanks. If I go to NY I will contact you certainly. Kindesr regards
    Julio Pestalardo
  • Phil Schreiber 9110 (16 Nov 2017 5:00pm EST) : JULIO PESTALARDO: IF YOU WILL BE NEAR THE


  • guest_5863 (16 Nov 2017 7:05am EST) : Dear sir:
    Nice to contact you. I am membership Julio Pestalardo from Buenos Aires , Acassuso , Argentina. I read and follow society activities enjoying them very much to me. In February 2018 I am going to visit my daughter who lives at Chicago and I was wondering if I could meet any member who lives there and exchange experience about our hobby. I am Captain retired from the Argentinean Navy and I collect Argentinean Navy Post, Maritime Postal History and Austral and Antarctic material. Some pieces are very few known and good too. Pehaps if I could I will take with me some material. I would like to donate some good material to USCS thru any member who lives in Chicago. Many thanks for all and BZ to the USCS indeed.
    Best regards,
    Julio Pestalardo
  • John Young (15 Nov 2017 7:24pm EST) : Ahoy Jim Moses: the Harry Moore aboard US Frigate CONSTITUTION was a storekeeper (SK), later SKC aboard USS TENNESSEE

    & Moore didn’t die aboard LANGLEY.

    You have to read Lloyd Ferrell’s well written article in October 2013 Log.

    Lloyd solved an mystery that was lost
    to the cobwebs of history that was written so long ago- where his death was reported in the ANCS Navigator and nobody checked it out. If fact Moore himself probably never knew that his death was reported

  • Neal Mills (15 Nov 2017 4:14pm EST) : Not the same Harry Moore. Below is quoted from a Linn’s article by John Young,

    “One mail clerk familiar to cover collectors is Harry Moore, who canceled mail aboard the frigate USS Constitution during its famous 1931-34 cruise.
    Moore, who was later the mail clerk aboard the battleship USS Tennessee (BB 43), was lost with the USS Langley (AV 3) on Feb. 27, 1942.”

  • guest_5697 (15 Nov 2017 3:14pm EST) : Have a 11 Nov 1942 cover from USS Ariel with sender listed as Harry Moore APC USN Could this be the same Harry Moore usn postal clerk from the Constitution, etc?

    Jim Moses USCS #12317

  • Steve Shay (14 Nov 2017 8:39am EST) : Keith, I’ve not seen one but then I also don’t collect those so I’ve not looked for one
  • Keith MacKay (13 Nov 2017 8:44pm EST) : Got it! Thanks, Steve. Have you ever seen one “live”?
  • Steve Shay (13 Nov 2017 8:22pm EST) : Keith, Google “1939 presidential cruise” and look a the images. There is a 1939 cruise cachet but it’s cancelled in 1940
  • Keith MacKay (13 Nov 2017 7:01pm EST) : … or have I just not been looking patiently for a cacheted cover long enough yet ???
  • Keith MacKay (13 Nov 2017 2:40pm EST) : I have a couple of covers cacheted specifically for FDR’s cruise in USS Potomac in 1936. I also have about a dozen covers for his 1939 cruise in USS Tuscaloosa, none of which have a cachet for the event (although 2 of them are overprinted “Presidential” on a USS Benham shakedown cachet). I’m puzzled and intrigued by that contrast. Does anyone know of a reason why there would be no cachets produced for the ’39 trip ?
  • Rich Hoffner (12 Nov 2017 10:51pm EST) : I want to thank all Veterans for their service. And a belated Happy Birthday to my three Marines and my extended Marine family including Maj. B and Greg C and his wife. But, i would be remiss if I did not mention that the U S Coast Guard is the oldest continously serving miltary service.
  • John Young (11 Nov 2017 12:35pm EST) : I wish to thank all Veterans for their service, whether Army, Navy, Marine Corps, Air Force or Coast Guard.

    And a special thank you for those that
    served during wartime

    We knee for the Lord & stand for the Flag.

  • John Young (10 Nov 2017 10:47am EST) : Wishing all our Marine Corps members a Happy USMC Birthday, especially our N.C. Pirate
  • John Young (07 Nov 2017 2:30pm EST) : New Jersey Chapter meeting tonight at Phil Schreiber’s apartment, 7:30 PM
    123 S. Adelaide Ave, Highland Park NJ
  • BMCM JONES 3933 (07 Nov 2017 10:38am EST) : I am working on January issue early so I can go on a cruise to Panama Canal at the end of November.

    Will take January columns early if ready.

  • BMCM JONES 3933 (07 Nov 2017 10:37am EST) : December Log is almost ready to go to printers early to help with holiday mailings.

    Still in need of articles for January and February 2018.

    What research do you have ready to share?

  • esink (03 Nov 2017 4:12pm EDT) : Interesting info about LS training, Rich…the basic technique of applying a decent cancel to make a fairly good cover should not require much skill, just some care, practice and common sense about what might be wanted. Somebody, probably the CO, should decide if and/or how cover processing for collectors is going to occur on his ship.
  • John Young (03 Nov 2017 1:44pm EDT) : Ahoy Mates,
    Neat COM from Steve Shay, cachet was done by Edward Bryan, (USCS #170) Albany OR who sponsored a serious of historical event with rubber stamp cuts and service aboard ships that had something to do with event
    i.e. Sam Houston posted aboard USS TEXAS or USS HOUSTON
  • Rich Hoffner (03 Nov 2017 1:34pm EDT) : Glitches exist for both cities where the USS WASHINGTON commissioning pictorials were requested. Both Norfolk and Olympia WA have problems. Some would say SNAFU. Working on both problems.
  • Rich Hoffner (03 Nov 2017 1:31pm EDT) : First 2018 pictorial submitted, USS SPRINGFIELD 1-9-18 to Groton CT. Thanks Wolfgang for your help.
  • Rich Hoffner (03 Nov 2017 1:28pm EDT) : And Phil’s note says it all… “many in the Navy do not know what they are doing.”

    There is currently no training of the mail clerks until they have two years duty, the change was made to speed up the schools that are attended by LS rate sailors. So if the Navy skips that portion of the LS rate schools (mail clerk), what are we to expect? Shortcuts and lack of training have results. Usually not good!

  • Rich Hoffner (03 Nov 2017 1:23pm EDT) : Agree with Elgin and Neal. That marking may come from the ship or from the MPSA at the Chicago facility where they screen APO FPO AND DPO mail for correct names and addresses.
  • esink (02 Nov 2017 8:17pm EDT) : Neal and Phil, that is also my impression when I receive covers “Addressee Not Known”; also some are clueless about postal processing in this digital age.
  • Neal Mills (02 Nov 2017 12:57pm EDT) : “Addressee Not known” is shorthand for “I don’t want to be bothered with this.”
  • Phil Schreiber 9110 (02 Nov 2017 12:43pm EDT) : Denny Gill: Read today’s posting in Facebook and you will understand why your “Addressee Not Known” mail to Curtis Wilbur was returned. The Facebook posting of the San Diego news article reporting on the two recent Navy collisions shows that many in the Navy do not know what they are doing.
  • Denny Gill (02 Nov 2017 12:20am EDT) : I received an “Addressee Not Known” return today for this ship and address:

    USS Curtis Wilbur (DDG 54)
    Unit 100160 Box 1
    FPO AP 96683

    This is the address listed in the Jan. 2017 Log as well as at the Navy.mil site and every other source that I’ve checked.


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